Does anybody know how HK ratings compare to others?

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blued888

Audioholic
Let's say a HK receiver claims 30wpc. What is this equivalent to in a Yamaha/other brand's unit? 60wpc? 75wpc?

Anybody know?

30w (All Channels Driven) is enough for average movie watching using high-sensitivity speakers (90dB+), right?

Just curious because I was previously using a 75w x5 Yamaha receiver (which was plenty enough for me) and I was wondering if it could be at least get as loud as that without distortion.

Thanks!
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
As an H/K owner I can tell you it doesn't work like that. Manufacturer specs are not that reliable. The H/K watts thing is more myth than anything. I think their main claim to fame is robust power supplies. The way to compare one rec'r to another is find some third party bench tests and see exactly what the equipment could and couldn't do.

The good news is that relatively current receivers will go plenty loud enough to damage your hearing with in home use. IIRC you were looking to get Primus 362's, right? Anyways, what particular rec'r are you looking for specs on? If you're in the market for a rec'r, choosing features is usually the first consideration.
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
while it's probably true that HK can do its rated specs all channels driven ...
they're never ever used at the same time anyway with real music or movies.

i'd personally prefer the 2 channel driven specs of the yammy's that have higher peak output than the output limited BUT all channels driven capable HK.
 
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fmw

Audioholic Ninja
And to shed some light of reality on things, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. The difference between "low powered" and "high powered" receivers is only about 3db of gain. In other words, they are all powered about the same give or take a little. The amplifier section of a receiver is easily the least important factor in deciding between them.
 
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blued888

Audioholic
As an H/K owner I can tell you it doesn't work like that. Manufacturer specs are not that reliable. The H/K watts thing is more myth than anything. I think their main claim to fame is robust power supplies. The way to compare one rec'r to another is find some third party bench tests and see exactly what the equipment could and couldn't do.

The good news is that relatively current receivers will go plenty loud enough to damage your hearing with in home use. IIRC you were looking to get Primus 362's, right? Anyways, what particular rec'r are you looking for specs on? If you're in the market for a rec'r, choosing features is usually the first consideration.
I already have the Infinity Primus set (2x P362, 2x P162, PC350), I just need the most basic one. I just need optical/coaxial input to connect my DVD player to get 5.1, no concern for other features such as video inputs, etc.

Anybody seen a site that reviews HK receivers like what Audioholics does with Yamahas? (i.e. the 663 was rated around 40w all channels driven in actual testing/measurement)

I probably listen to around 80dB to 90dB max. Don't have a dedicated/sound-proofed room so neighbors will definitely complain if louder than that.

And to shed some light of reality on things, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. The difference between "low powered" and "high powered" receivers is only about 3db of gain. In other words, they are all powered about the same give or take a little. The amplifier section of a receiver is easily the least important factor in deciding between them.
In this case, the amplifier section of a receiver is the only thing I'm worried about since I don't need all the other features, just basic 5.1 output is all I need since this will just be for a secondary setup. All I need is for the receiver to be able to process 5.1 and have at least 1 digital output (coaxial/optical).
 
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Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
All I need is for the receiver to be able to process 5.1 and have at least 1 digital output (coaxial/optical).
You mean input, right?

Anyways, this is where I got so smart about stuff:

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40729

The way this normally works is that you provide a dollar figure that you are planning to spend and then the fellas recommend what they will. I assume people want to go as cheap as possible so I'll show you this completed eBay listing that went for cheap:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160294847052

You could do a search on eBay for local stuff so that you could see it and wouldn't have to pay for shipping. FWIW I believe fmw and PENG about the things being discussed in these threads.

Here's the best watts/dollar source that I know of. I like the 435 myself.

http://stores.ebay.com/Harman-Audio_Home-Theater-Receivers_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ10225972QQftidZ2QQsclZ2QQtZkm
 
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