Do I need to duplicate DVD setup in receiver?

[gluchy]

Good day everybody,

My DVD will come with very comprehensive setup, which includes speakers sizes,
distances, subwoofer cross-over, etc.
My HTR has the same (and more) options, which are basically duplicates.

Logically I would think that it is only necessary to setup the receiver and leave the DVD settings at defaults.

Is this correct? or do I have to configure both devices essentially with the same values?

Thanks,

gluchy
Canada

 

[brian32672]

The dvd settings you refer to mainly are only if you hook up the 5.1 analog for DVD-A
For the most part, if you are using a digital connection, then all settings should be done in the receiver.
Hope that helps (it is the short version)

 

[supervij]

brian, when I listen to hi-res music (yes, using the multi-channel inputs/outputs), I get nothing from the sub unless I go into the receiver's settings and increase the sub's gain by 10 dB. Only then does the sub even receive a signal. Doesn't this indicate that the DVD player is using the receiver's settings?

And if the DVD player IS using the receiver's settings, shouldn't we be leaving the DVD player's settings alone, i.e., setting all speakers as large, setting identical speaker distances within the player? After all, the signal is going to be altered (increased, decreased, whatever) by the receiver anyway, right?

Just trying to figure all this out!

cheers,
supervij

 

[Nomo]

That depends on what type of processing, if any, the reciever is being told to use. And most likely on how that particular brand of reciever uses those settings. When I listen to a MC DVD-A with multi channel input, for example, the sound is completely dependant on the settings of the player, which in my case is very limited. I get better results by using the straight setting which uses some but not all of the recievers setting, part of that being speakers levels.

 

[surveyor]

brian, when I listen to hi-res music (yes, using the multi-channel inputs/outputs), I get nothing from the sub unless I go into the receiver's settings and increase the sub's gain by 10 dB. Only then does the sub even receive a signal. Doesn't this indicate that the DVD player is using the receiver's settings?

And if the DVD player IS using the receiver's settings, shouldn't we be leaving the DVD player's settings alone, i.e., setting all speakers as large, setting identical speaker distances within the player? After all, the signal is going to be altered (increased, decreased, whatever) by the receiver anyway, right?

Just trying to figure all this out!

cheers,
supervij

I have found that when using direct input from my Denon 2910 (6 channel input on my RX-V2200 reciever), if I set all speakers to large, I get very little output from my subwoofer.
But, when I set the rear surround speakers to small the subwoofer comes to life big time.
I have also found the same to be true using my Pioneer DV-578A DVD Player.
I have also discovered that I much prefer using the 6 channel input for DTS and Dolby Digital.

 

[supervij]

Nomo, I don't think my receiver can accept ANY processing when using the multi-channel inputs. I can't engage straight mode, or any of the surround modes either. I can engage pure direct, which bypasses all circuitry and everything, but even with pure direct, the receiver's speaker settings are still used. I know this cos I went into the receiver, and decreased the front three speakers down to -10 dB, listened with multi-channel inputs, and whether in pure direct or no, there was still very very little coming from the front three compared to the rears.

surveyor, today I altered the settings in my DVD player to large speakers all around, and listened to a DVD-A (Sting's Brand New Day). I certainly didn't find that there was not enough bass in the music. I don't know how much of it was coming from my sub, though. My mains go down to 35 Hz, but my centre and my rears go down only to 60 and 50 Hz respectively. I'll try setting my rears as small and see what happens. Thanks for the tip!

Does anyone know which unit's crossover is being used: the DVD player or the receiver? I always figured it was the player, but if the receiver's speaker distances are used (as well as the player's), then maybe it's both units using their respective crossovers? And I don't know if I should change any settings to improve the sound based on this. I've left many voice mails and e-mails at Pioneer, asking for the crossover frequency (among other things) on my 588A, and they still haven't gotten back to me.

"I have also discovered that I much prefer using the 6 channel input for DTS and Dolby Digital." Really? In what way do you find the sound improved?

cheers,
supervij

 

[Nomo]

My apology. (pulls foot from mouth) You are correct, Straight does not engage thru multi input mode. I am actually using the digital inputs for straight mode. But it is my understanding that Pure Direct should Bypass everything. I'd love to try it myself, but it appears my player may have just died. Xmas may come early for me this year.
Any way, sorry for the misinfo.

 

[surveyor]

surveyor, today I altered the settings in my DVD player to large speakers all around, and listened to a DVD-A (Sting's Brand New Day). I certainly didn't find that there was not enough bass in the music. I don't know how much of it was coming from my sub, though. My mains go down to 35 Hz, but my centre and my rears go down only to 60 and 50 Hz respectively. I'll try setting my rears as small and see what happens. Thanks for the tip!

Your welcome.
I hope it helps!

 

[supervij]

Yesterday I spoke with someone from Yamaha regarding using the multi-channel analog inputs. He said that the channel trim on the receiver will affect the signals coming in, but that's it. It's the player's speaker distance settings (delay), speaker size settings and crossover that are used. So I guess I'll go back to player settings of small all around.

So gluchy, you'll have to duplicate the settings for your player.

NomoSony, you have my sympathies! My DVD player died this past summer, and I felt so lost. I had to do some pretty quick research for a universal player and didn't want to spend too much money. Pioneer's 588A fit the bill. It downconverts DSD to PCM, but it still sounds pretty awesome, so I recommend it. (It's dirt cheap too!)

surveyor, I think it helped because my mains can go down to 35 Hz, and that's where the bass was coming from. But I will go back to "small" all around, since my sub can go a bit lower. If you set all of them to large, you shouldn't get ANYTHING from your sub, as the player's crossover is disabled. Depending on what kind of speakers you have, you might want to follow suit and put all down as "small". Also -- do you really find DTS and DD sound better using the multi-channel analog cables? Is that related to having better DACs in the player than in the receiver?

cheers,
supervij

 

[surveyor]

Yesterday I spoke with someone from Yamaha regarding using the multi-channel analog inputs. He said that the channel trim on the receiver will affect the signals coming in, but that's it. It's the player's speaker distance settings (delay), speaker size settings and crossover that are used. So I guess I'll go back to player settings of small all around.

So gluchy, you'll have to duplicate the settings for your player.

NomoSony, you have my sympathies! My DVD player died this past summer, and I felt so lost. I had to do some pretty quick research for a universal player and didn't want to spend too much money. Pioneer's 588A fit the bill. It downconverts DSD to PCM, but it still sounds pretty awesome, so I recommend it. (It's dirt cheap too!)

surveyor, I think it helped because my mains can go down to 35 Hz, and that's where the bass was coming from. But I will go back to "small" all around, since my sub can go a bit lower. If you set all of them to large, you shouldn't get ANYTHING from your sub, as the player's crossover is disabled. Depending on what kind of speakers you have, you might want to follow suit and put all down as "small". Also -- do you really find DTS and DD sound better using the multi-channel analog cables? Is that related to having better DACs in the player than in the receiver?

cheers,
supervij

I use both my reciever and 6 channel input for DTS etc.. My Denon 2910 MDP has BB Dacs that are 3 years newer than the DACs in my RX-V2200. So sometimes (IMO) the DACs in the Denon sound a tad bit more detailed to me!

 

[supervij]

So do you even bother with a digital coax or optical audio cable? Man, that's a lotta cables you got back there!

cheers,
supervij

 

[surveyor]

So do you even bother with a digital coax or optical audio cable? Man, that's a lotta cables you got back there!

cheers,
supervij

Yes, there's a bunch of wires allright. I have optical audio too.
There's so much wire webed back there that spiders even stay away.
Have a good one!