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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
I am looking into to buying a new tv. if i had my way i would go w/ pioneer but i have something called wife and baby on the way in the next 8 weeks. I am looking into
A. DLP which is a good cost savings
or
B. spending a little more and going with a panasonic plasma.

are the new samsung dlp's with new LED technology really that bad??? you never have to change the bulb in these, this is the one i was looking into
. Samsung HL-S5687W 56" 1080p DLP HDTV

i like the samung dlp but i dont want buy something that i am going to have problems with, I do love the panasonic plasma's but seem to be priced a little higher.
input on the samsungs???
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
I have a plasma (Panny), a LCD (LG) and a DLP (Mits) and they all have really good pictures. As long as you dont need really wide off axis viewing, I would go with the biggest display at the less expensive cost (DLP) The DLP PQ matches the other two formats without issue. As far as changing the bulb, I like the fact that after 20,000 hours of viewing, I can pop in a new $200 bulb and have a brand new TV again.
 
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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
thanks, my heart has been set on the dlp because of the cost savings, with the baby on the way and new house in the next 3 months i think dlp may be the best choice, I beleive samsungs new LED technology means you never have to replace the bulb because they took away the color wheel. I may go with the dlp, however when it comes time to buy it I am sure something new will be coming out. Greg, i like the looks of the diamond you have!
 
Biggiesized

Biggiesized

Senior Audioholic
The Samsung HL-SXX87W series is one of the most lauded displays ever. You can get an almost perfect calibration on these babies--definitely perfect color accuracy for primaries and secondaries. They have so many service menu options that you can tweak them just right. Now, do remember that this display is two years old so don't expect amazing blacks. However you can expect consistent, uncloudy black levels. Also, a few other things bug me about this set. One, is the geometry. Because of the plastic bezel, you'll notice that the picture slightly warps up vertically typically on one side of the screen. You may not notice it at first, but it irritates me. My family members can't even notice it, so if you don't have incredibly sharp eyes, don't sweat it. Two, the overscan on this set is pretty bad--I'd estimate around 6-7%. You won't be affected by text and title information on most channels, but some networks like NatGeo don't frame their programs correctly and the certain pieces of text get cut off. There is a service menu option (note: to bring up the service menu, have the DLP TV off, then quickly press Mute-1-8-2-Power in that order to get into it--any adjustments you make to your display if you have no idea what you're doing in there can screw it up) to turn overscan off, but it only minimizes it to about 2.5%, and it doesn't stick after a power cycle. The HS-SXX88W series can have it set off permanently. Some newer builds of the HL-SXX87W model can also turn it off permanently, but they do it strangely--they'll restore some viewable horizontal resolution, but not vertical (or it's the other way around). Also, DLP TVs are notoriously slow to boot up. Cold booting takes about 30 seconds to get a stabilized picture at normal brightness.

Other than all those things I've mentioned (and it's up to you to determine how big a deal they are), this Samsung series is one of the best displays you can buy, PERIOD, especially if you want to get it professionally calibrated (or if you want to toy around in the service menu yourself with a colorimeter and some software like CalMAN or HCFR).

I've had my set since October 2006 and I've yet to have any problems whatsoever. And if you're concerned about the bulb wearing out (some say they last about a year), I've put in over 2000 hours in my set and I haven't noticed any picture degradation. The bulb is still clunking right along just fine.

And really, one of the best things about this set is it's CHEAP! Especially now! I picked my 61" model for $3000 shipped plus a stand and 5 year bulb/parts warranty from Newegg when I purchased it. I think I've seen these models under $1000 now. Don't let price fool you into believing you have a better set. DLP TVs are declining in sales but they still have excellent picture quality (bulb sets are still recommended over the LED backlit ones).

I hoped that helped.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
The slow boot up is the only thing that gets on my nerves but once I see the 73'' of awesome PQ, I forget how long it took to come on:D
Also, DLP TVs are notoriously slow to boot up. Cold booting takes about 30 seconds to get a stabilized picture at normal brightness.

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yettitheman

yettitheman

Audioholic General
Ah, you get used to DLP startup.
I just changed the bulb in the WD-57732... I got some pics of that.

Holy crap does the vent for the bulb get dirty! And it ran 15 months, 10 hours a day! :eek: :D
 
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allargon

Audioholic General
Ah, you get used to DLP startup.
I just changed the bulb in the WD-57732... I got some pics of that.

Holy crap does the vent for the bulb get dirty! And it ran 15 months, 10 hours a day! :eek: :D
I have the exact same set. I know what you mean. That set has fairly good off-axis (except for vertical) viewing especially compared to cheaper LCD's and the older 720p Mitsubishi sets.
 
yettitheman

yettitheman

Audioholic General
I have the exact same set. I know what you mean. That set has fairly good off-axis (except for vertical) viewing especially compared to cheaper LCD's and the older 720p Mitsubishi sets.
Have you seen it play a High Def source, such as HD-DVD or Blu-Ray?

Drool :eek: :D
 
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Exit

Audioholic Chief
I've had a 61" Samsung DLP for about two or three years now with no problems. The slow warm up isn't that slow. I sit pretty far off axis and there is no change in picture quality for me. About the only change in picture quality is if you walk right by it and look down. I think Samsung did a pretty good job designing this set. It is only 720p but high definition inputs and DVDs look great. Upscaled standard definition is only fair to ok depending on the satelite channel.
 

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