Diverted Flights due to Fights over Reclining Seats

[rnatalli]

We really are loosing our minds. Either allow seat reclining or don't. People don't like it either way, they can take another means of transportation.

Seat recline fight diverts another flight - CNN.com

 

[Midwesthonky]

I'm not sure what the airlines were expecting to happen. But my response is what DID you think would happen when you jammed all the seats in closer to cram more seats into the same aircraft and took out flights so each plane would be packed full with no empty seats? Seriously, what did you think would happen?

I'm glad I got of the road because flying today really sucks.

 

[rnatalli]

I'm glad I got of the road because flying today really sucks.

Amen to that.

 

[ImcLoud]

I am a big guy and when I fly I don't fly coach because I don't fit.. I flew southwest one time and NEVER AGAIN, I would rather walk...

 

[MidnightSensi2]

Airlines have gotten terrible. Flying today is like dragging your nuts through shards of glass.

I think it's a cumulative effect of the overall 'experience' flying is just stressing people out more, making them more likely to get aggressive or go limbic.

Also what's up with milage? They want stupid amounts of miles to upgrade now.

 

[ImcLoud]

Airlines have gotten terrible. Flying today is like dragging your nuts through shards of glass.

I think it's a cumulative effect of the overall 'experience' flying is just stressing people out more, making them more likely to get aggressive or go limbic.

Also what's up with milage? They want stupid amounts of miles to upgrade now.

your post reminds me of the south park episode where the gay teacher invents a vehicle so people dont have to play and it rapes your mouth and @ss while it drives, people say "well its better than flying".... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1y4RRWm3xw

 

[itschris]

I'm going to go the other way. I travel. I'm a toad. If you can't bear just sitting reading a book or playing on your iPad for a few hours, don't fly. I'm of the opinion people are behaving more and more badly because of lack of consequence.

These arrogant F-Tards should be arrested and fined and should be banned from commercial flight for a year. Who the hell to people think they are? They should've been tasered. The selfishness that exists, the narcissism is just beyond me. YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL!!!!! You're a cold booger on a paper plate like everytone else.

Life is simple: Don't break the law, don't do things just because you can, listen to the police, leave people alone, and finally... just deal with sh*t. You don't have to go all f*cking diva everytime something doesn't happen the way you think it should.

In my world the punishment would never fit the crime... it would come down on you with crushing unrelenting force. You rob my house and take things from my family that I earned and paid for... I f*cking bulldoze your home and destroy everything you own. People need to get the f*ck over themselves.


I'm angry today.

 

[Swerd]

Instead of banning terrorists from flying, and keeping them in solitary at Guantanamo, they should be handcuffed to a coach seat on Southwest or United Airlines, and fly permanently. Their seats will ALWAYS be immediately behind someone who reclines for the whole flight. ISIS take warning!

 

[markw]

People in front of me recling their seats doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as when Jabba the Hut sits next to us and their excess adipose tissue overflows into one or both adjoining seats where it impinges on my and/or my wifes room.

If the airlines want to do away with reclinng seats, then they should do so and prevent this bullshiite. Reclining a seat n front of me really doesn't affect all that much, and I'm 6'3". As for those devices that prevent reclining, they should be anally inserted, as forcibly and deeply as physically possible into those who use them.

 

[MidnightSensi2]

your post reminds me of the south park episode where the gay teacher invents a vehicle so people dont have to play and it rapes your mouth and @ss while it drives, people say "well its better than flying".... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1y4RRWm3xw

Haha. I'd still take flying over that, but, yeah, I pretty much feel like I'm getting raped every time I fly.

A few, off the top of my head 'Rules of Flying': (I'm slightly injured, so, have some extra time)
1. Get prepared for security IN THE LINE. Laptop out, belt off, put your wallet and phone in your bag, pull out your baggie, and then all you have to do is kick off your shoes.
2. If your kid is old enough to hold a chicken mcnugget, it's not eligible for pre-boarding. That's for old and disabled people, ********.
3. Middle seat gets both center armrests.
4. If you are in a window, don't drink a ton on the airplane making everyone get up continually so you can pee. It's not a hiking trip, you can hydrate when we land.
5. Don't get drunk on an airplane. Just, don't.
6. Putting your seat back:
6a. On a domestic flight:
-Business/First: look back first in case the persons laptop is in the way. Just put it back like half way if you need to.
-Couch: Leave it up.
-Puddle jumper type plane: Don't even think of putting that seat back.
6b. On international:
-Business: Can put it back, but not into 'bed mode' until the lights are off.
-Couch: Kill yourself if the flight is longer than 7-8 hours. Dubai couch, seriously you'll consider suicide. No seating arrangement will help.
-First: There are like 8 seats, so everyone is full-fair (yikes!), no way to upgrade in, and its never worth the miles or money. Everyone pretty much knows the rules.
7. Don't get hostile with people on airplanes, it's worthless.
8. Silence your phone, you're not important. Can't hear on a damn airplane anyways, so, might as well text on silent. Tada!
9. Don't carry on giant bags. Just check the ****ing thing. And I don't care that you're a women, you brought that giant ass bag on instead of checking it because you're impatient, so I feel no pity of you trying to lurch it into the overhead bin. I will watch with enjoyment.
11. Shutup.
12. Don't bring a damn pizza on the plane. It smells.
13. Don't put your feet on the seat in front of you.
14. Taking off your shoes is basically weird and gross, you'll live.
15. On international overnight flights, use a screen dimmer on your laptop when the lights are off.
...I'll stop heh...


Flying Pro-tip of the Day: On long or international flights in business class across the pond, right after breakfast is when the bathrooms are busiest. So, eat your breakfast fast and you got dibs on the clean bathroom for a quick teeth brush and pee. The menu on a US carrier will be a fruit plate with granola, cereal and a bagel, or something with sausage your afraid to eat... look for rolls...take two... the granola or bagel won't fill you up and the hot dish is too nasty.

I'm angry today.

Blood sugar?

 

[ImcLoud]

People in front of me recling their seats doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as when Jabba the Hut sits next to us and their excess adipose tissue overflows into one or both adjoining seats where it impinges on my and/or my wifes room.

If the airlines want to do away with reclinng seats, then they should do so and prevent this bullshiite. Reclining a seat n front of me really doesn't affect all that much, and I'm 6'3". As for those devices that prevent reclining, they should be anally inserted, as forcibly and deeply as physically possible into those who use them.

I am a big guy so when we did fly southwest, I made sure to sit at the window with my wife on the side of me, my shoulders are wider than both of them seats.. On the flight back {I wanted to cancel and come back with a different air line, but the wife wasn't having it} they stopped me and said I may need to purchase another ticket, I was like "I'll do you one better, give me my money back and I will never fly with you again" but one of the stuards or what ever them people at the gate are called came over and said I was fine if I sat at a window... Then that flight the guy in front of me had the ballz to lay his seat in my lap, on the way down that didn't happen, I didn't even know them seats reclined and I would NEVER do that {unless there was no one behind me}, so I am like "wtf, is this guys problem?" I was just about to say something when the guy next to my wife in the aisle seat motioned me and sign language'd the coughing sign, as to say "cough on his head", so I did, I was like ahchahgh ahchaaugh scrashghghaughefee kahhhas all over his head, he turned to look back and give me a dirty look but decided not to and pushed his seat up...
4 hours later that was a distant memory for me but we got in my office managers car that was picking us up at the airport and my wife flipped out on me, about how she was so embarrassed and that's not what kind of people we are and how all I had to do was say "excuse me can you please not recline your seat, I don't have much room back here" and I agreed, and explained it was what i was going to do until the other guy gave me the idea and she went on to tell me if he jumped off a bridge, and I said rite now I would like to jump off a bridge, this went on for all of 7 minutes before I asked if she would like me to take them out to dinner, then all was forgiven... I would be lying if I said I didn't also play the "I was embarrassed about them saying I needed 2 seats" card, lol...

 

[herbu]

In my world the punishment would never fit the crime... it would come down on you with crushing unrelenting force.

I used to work with a guy from Iran. He was amused at the drug problems in the US. He said they don't have a drug problem in Iran. The government bought a bunch of TV/radio ads, and put up a bunch of billboards. They said, "On such-and-such date, exactly one week from now, if you are caught with illegal drugs you will be executed." The ads counted down the days. They built public execution sites in the center of the big cities. On the prescribed date, people caught w/ illegal drugs were marched to the execution sites and executed. No trial, no excuse, no appeal, no exceptions. After a couple days, their drug problem was gone. Done. Over. No more.

That represents one extreme. I'm afraid we've gone just as far in the other extreme, not just for drugs. There must be a happy medium somewhere between the two. If people are not held responsible, they will act irresponsibly.

 

[MidnightSensi2]

I used to work with a guy from Iran. He was amused at the drug problems in the US. He said they don't have a drug problem in Iran.

Hopefully he got fired, because he's either an idiot or liar.

he government bought a bunch of TV/radio ads, and put up a bunch of billboards. They said, "On such-and-such date, exactly one week from now, if you are caught with illegal drugs you will be executed." The ads counted down the days. They built public execution sites in the center of the big cities. On the prescribed date, people caught w/ illegal drugs were marched to the execution sites and executed. No trial, no excuse, no appeal, no exceptions.

That's terrible. How'd that work for them?

After a couple days, their drug problem was gone. Done. Over. No more.

Kidding, I knew the answer: Iran has the highest addiction rate in the world.


Iran drug addiction rate highest in world

Breaking bad in Tehran: how Iran got a taste for crystal meth | World news | The Guardian

Drug addiction in Iran: The other religion | The Economist

Women addicted to drugs in Iran begin seeking treatment despite taboo - The Washington Post

 

[lsiberian]

That represents one extreme. I'm afraid we've gone just as far in the other extreme, not just for drugs. There must be a happy medium somewhere between the two. If people are not held responsible, they will act irresponsibly.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world. We have the highest violent crime rate in the civilized world. This approach has been proven to not work here. Oh and what happens if I'm the judge in your situation and I just don't like you. Guess what's going to happen to you.

 

[itschris]

I used to work with a guy from Iran. He was amused at the drug problems in the US. He said they don't have a drug problem in Iran. The government bought a bunch of TV/radio ads, and put up a bunch of billboards. They said, "On such-and-such date, exactly one week from now, if you are caught with illegal drugs you will be executed." The ads counted down the days. They built public execution sites in the center of the big cities. On the prescribed date, people caught w/ illegal drugs were marched to the execution sites and executed. No trial, no excuse, no appeal, no exceptions. After a couple days, their drug problem was gone. Done. Over. No more.

That represents one extreme. I'm afraid we've gone just as far in the other extreme, not just for drugs. There must be a happy medium somewhere between the two. If people are not held responsible, they will act irresponsibly.

My good friend and neighbor is a commander in the Sherrif's dept. We talk about this kinda stuff all of the time. For instance... you want people to not speed in school zones or neighborhoods? Make the fine $2,500 and your car gets impounded for a 30 days. Guaranteed no one will do it more than once. For some reason we make doing the wrong thing or committing crime a very easy choice. Consequence of actions is a equal to the crime... that makes it a balanced choice... one worth considering. How stupid is that? We also tend to support bad behavior in variety of extremes. Hell... look at Ferguson. Rather than being happy a thug is no longer in their midst, they rally around a piece of sh*t because they mistakenly feel it serves a greater purpose.

Whatever... don't get me started.

 

[herbu]

Kidding, I knew the answer: Iran has the highest addiction rate in the world.


Iran drug addiction rate highest in world

Breaking bad in Tehran: how Iran got a taste for crystal meth | World news | The Guardian

Drug addiction in Iran: The other religion | The Economist

Women addicted to drugs in Iran begin seeking treatment despite taboo - The Washington Post

You'll notice all these articles are fairly current. The period my friend referenced was 50 years ago.
My travels taught me that our beliefs and system of govt may not be the most effective for every culture, and every system has its good & bad points.
An interesting debate might be whether Iraq was better off w/ Saddam or without.

 

[3db]

It boils down to having manners and respect for one another. Flying is stressful, seating is cramped which make respect even that more important. Stress is not a license to become an ahole.

 

[Adam]

It boils down to having manners and respect for one another.

Word. Just treat other folks the way you want to be treated. If someone else is, in your opinion, being an a-hole - just realize that the flight won't last forever. Well, at least it won't last as long your stay in jail/court if you flip out and make the plane land.

Now, I can type that, but I have a bad case of driver Tourette's. I just verbally go off sometimes. I looked over and said something to somebody recently, both of our windows were up and we were driving so I didn't expect them to hear it, but afterwards I realized that maybe they did. I felt like a total a-hole. I would have stopped and apologized if I knew for sure, but I didn't. On the flip side, the driver did illegally pull into my lane and almost hit me...

 

[Swerd]

It boils down to having manners and respect for one another. Flying is stressful, seating is cramped which make respect even that more important. Stress is not a license to become an ahole.

Word. Just treat other folks the way you want to be treated.

While I agree with your sentiments, respect among passengers on an airplane is a 2-way street. The cramped seating is stressful for everyone.

The easiest way to show lack of respect for another passenger is to lean your seat back. It makes me angry to hear that "no one has the right to prevent another from leaning their seat back". In my opinion, no one has the right to impinge on the limited seating space of the person behind them.

I wish airlines got the message and made their seats so leaning that far back was not possible. Right now they seem to be happy with allowing passengers to blame each other, when the real blame should be on the airlines.

 

[3db]

While I agree with your sentiments, respect among passengers on an airplane is a 2-way street. The cramped seating is stressful for everyone.

The easiest way to show lack of respect for another passenger is to lean your seat back. It makes me angry to hear that "no one has the right to prevent another from leaning their seat back". In my opinion, no one has the right to impinge on the limited seating space of the person behind them.

I wish airlines got the message and made their seats so leaning that far back was not possible. Right now they seem to be happy with allowing passengers to blame each other, when the real blame should be on the airlines.

I don't mind someone leaning back a little...thats respectful..... now if they lay on m y lap, then thats another matter unless I'm seeing...