Diminishing returns

lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Sorry, I am not trying to take this thread off topic any more but this made me chuckle. Up until a few months ago, Ford owned a controlling amount of stock in Mazda, and still shares several vehicle platforms :D. Mazda 6 = Ford Fusion, Mazda CX7 = Ford Edge, Mazda Tribute = Ford Escape, etc. I used to dislike Ford but they have improved greatly over the past 4 years, and are by far the best of the big 3, just had to through a little defense their way :).
I've driven both the Mazda 6 and Ford Fusion and the 6 drives better.

Call me crazy, but it has superior handling. Ultimately I went with the Mazda 3 s I think it's the perfect balance of handling, power, and size.

FYI they build Mazda's in Japan at factories with very high QA. They build Ford's somewhere else.

While Ford may have a controlling interest they are different cars. Ford caters to my Parents. Mazda caters to me. :D

It's like comparing JBL to Infinity IMO.

Though the Ford Trucks are very nice. I still hate trucks.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
A different Lens

When the speaker's cost ruins your financial situation. I mean if you are too poor to eat because of the speakers or your wife leaves you over the speakers then you have gone too far. Remember the real thing is better than a movie. Most people would be happy with a 1k system. And if you DIY you can really have an amazing setup for far less than the 5k price. At that price you could buy tools that would make building the speakers easy or even higher out the cabinets.
Does this mean we need a poll on who should be considered the audio version of a degenerate gambler?
 
codexp3

codexp3

Audioholic
Does this mean we need a poll on who should be considered the audio version of a degenerate gambler?
Audioholics anonymous? Are you kidding? Texas stadium wouldn't be big enough to house our meetings! Of course...we might be able to spin it as a non profit and get tax free system upgrades...
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Give me my tight Mazda any day of the week.
I hate Mazda so bad I won't drive a Mercury because it has an 'M' in it. :D :p

Yeah, from what I've seen/heard, it's all in the the ear of the beholder.
I think it's in the eye of the beholder too. It's been shown that if the speaker looks pretty and the listener sees a huge price tag, they like it more. To me the point of diminishing returns depends on how much you make, how much you have and how much cushion you're comfortable with. I recently heard something in the $2500/pair price range and it made me a little wet. I'm just not there yet. :eek:
 
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BoB/335

Junior Audioholic
I hate Mazda so bad I won't drive a Mercury because it has an 'M' in it. :D :p



I think it's in the eye of the beholder too. It's been shown that if the speaker looks pretty and the listener sees a huge price tag, they like it more. To me the point of diminishing returns depends on how much you make, how much you have and how much cushion you're comfortable with. I recently heard something in the $2500/pair price range and it made me a little wet. I'm just not there yet. :eek:

Would you mind sharing what that pair is?
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

Banned
Um seriously a Ford?

I've driven a lot of cars and the Fords are the loosest things on the planet. Give me my tight Mazda any day of the week. We do know what Ford stands for right?
I had a Ford once, a 1990 5-speed SHO with a 220 hp Yamaha engine. Nice for 2 years then it turned into a Ford! Ford Customer Service did me wrong and that was my last domestic car. Only Lexus, Toyota, Honda and Acura since!

Later,

MidCow2

My Pioneer is scheduled to be delivered Saturday, 2/28/09 :D


P.S. - Alex since Mercedes is now flawed by Chrysler is it alss on your banned "M" list ?? :eek:
 
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Exit

Audioholic Chief
FYI they build Mazda's in Japan at factories with very high QA. They build Ford's somewhere else.[/QUOTE said:
The Mazda 3 is built in Hiroshima, Japan and has a very good reliability record. The Mazda 6 is built near Detroit and has a much poorer reliability record. The Mazda 6 looks sharp though, if you are not as much concerned about repair hassles and costs.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
The Mazda 3 is built in Hiroshima, Japan and has a very good reliability record. The Mazda 6 is built near Detroit and has a much poorer reliability record. The Mazda 6 looks sharp though, if you are not as much concerned about repair hassles and costs.
Good to know I made the right choice.:D

The Nintendo was still their best contribution to the world. I make it a point to thank Japanese people for it. They always give a good laugh. Lets see how many ducks I can kill today.:D
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I had a Ford once, a 1990 5-speed SHO with a 220 hp Yamaha engine. Nice for 2 years then it turned into a Ford! Ford Customer Service did me wrong and that was my last domestic car. Only Lexus, Toyota, Honda and Acura since!

Later,

MidCow2

My Pioneer is scheduled to be delivered Saturday, 2/28/09 :D


P.S. - Alex since Mercedes is now flawed by Chrysler is it alss on your banned "M" list ?? :eek:
Actually they got rid of Chrysler. They tried to do something good with them, but they just couldn't. It would be like JBL buying B and trying to make them better. A disaster waiting to happen.

If they tried to merge B with Infinity I wonder what you would get. A BSS.
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Alex since Mercedes is now flawed by Chrysler is it also on your banned "M" list ?? :eek:
Thinks for a nanosecond .... eagerly responds, "I will allow it."
Sticking to the topic, I must point out that the point of diminishing returns has been crossed with that 'M' class. BTW, I am on my second Ford since 1994.

This is America, Bub. Love it or leave it.
says the non-american. the old guys always miss the small print. he he he
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
Audioholics anonymous? Are you kidding? Texas stadium wouldn't be big enough to house our meetings! Of course...we might be able to spin it as a non profit and get tax free system upgrades...
Well, being in the business, everything I buy is technically demo equipment but if I keep it for too long, I have to pay a Use Tax. OTOH, I can't just buy everything, either.
 
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