Difficult Low-Cost AVR Decission

SirLouen

SirLouen

Enthusiast
In my system I have 5 Behringer B2030P monitors
Here are the specs:
http://www.behringer.com/assets/B2030P_P0194_S_EN.pdf
Basically 8Ω impedance, and 100W power consumption.
Up to there fine
But the problem is that I live in Europe
And for some reason some AVs in Europe are "capped" in power delivery.
For example: Yamaha RX-V375 in USA works up to 8Ω 100W, 1ch/driven 1% THD but in Europe it works for 6Ω 100W 1ch/driven. This means from my calculations that in Europe working at 8Ω it will be aprox 80-90W 1ch/driven
This means that my B2030P wont be working fully comfortable.
Europe: RX-V375 - AV Receivers/Amplifiers - Yamaha - Other European Countries
USA: RX-V375 - RX-V - AV Receivers - Audio & Visual - Products - Yamaha United States
Worst part is that looking into the Europe specs, it doesnt seem to dynamically adjust to 8Ω impedances!! Only, 4Ω and 2Ω
This looks awful


After this, I started looking other amps in the 200€ tag (aprox $250)
Here I find
- Onkyo: TX-NR414
- Denon: AVR-X500


The problem of this 2 is that they don't have mic calibration system, so I discard them instantly.


Other brands like Sony, don't have low-tier AVs... the cheapest is the Sony STR-DH540, but in that prize tag, I will opt for the Onkyo TXNR525 or even the Denon AVR-X1000 that beat that one easily... but all of them are over my budget



The final option is Pioneer VSX-423-K
I'm not a big fan of Pioneer AVs but... for the prize tag is the only one with that gives 130W for 6Ω 1ch/driven so I estimate it will fit good at 100W at 8Ω of the Behringer, the counterpart is that from what I've read the MCACC calibration system is awful, even YPAO performs better...


Any insights about this? I'm a bit frustated, because the one I liked most was the Yamaha RX-V375
:(
 
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j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Speakers don't have a "consumption" rating; that is the MAXIMUM rating. Those speakers would likely be fine and are typically using less than 10W real world for typical listening, especially when crossed over to a sub. Unless you are looking for extreme SPL levels, you should be OK with that receiver.
 
SirLouen

SirLouen

Enthusiast
But what I cannot understand, why V475 USA and Europe has different ratings?
In the owners manual says:
Dynamic Power (1-channel driven):
For Europe: 6/4/2Ω 110/130/150W
For USA: 8/6/4/2Ω: 110/130/160/180W
Why this?
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
That one I have no idea. Maybe EU has different rating requirements now compared to US?
 
P

PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
That one I have no idea. Maybe EU has different rating requirements now compared to US?
That would be the main reason. A minor reason could be the difference in efficiencies (eff=output/input) due to the difference between 230V/50Hz and 120V/60 Hz.
 
SirLouen

SirLouen

Enthusiast
So the difference in eff may affect the result in the B2030P monitors?
 
M

markw

Audioholic Overlord
Don't worry. The differences in the specs won't have an effect on what you ultimately hear. A few watts either way doesn't make an audiable difference.

The heavy lifting will be done by your subwoofer anyway.

Besides, "dynamic power" is a pith poor way to state power. It's unreliable.
 

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