Denon or Audyssey Problem

[Coop2261]

First time post,
I have a question I just want to throw out there I purchased a Denon avr x1600h and went through all the setup steps and it went pretty smooth but just wasn't happy with the sound no matter how I tweaked it. So needless to say I returned it for the Denon avr x3500h, this time when I did the setup not only did it tell me my subwoofer was to high and needed to be lowered it said a number of my speakers were out of phase which I ignored and when it was done it had my front speakers set to large. this is my fourth Denon in 25 years never really had this issue with the others so my question is is this a Denon issue or an Audyssey issue or no issue at all considering the receiver sounds great period and all I did was swap the receivers out and made no changes at all to the rest of my setup.

Any guesses out there?

Thanks
Coop.

 

[Pogre]

What are your speakers and subwoofer(s)? How big is your room? How far do you sit from the front speakers?

I would blame Denon for setting your speakers to large. Even with truly "large" speakers I always go in behind it and set them to small. Otherwise you have no bass management (or bass, from your sub). As far as the out of phase warnings, again, need to know what speakers. Some will always give a false positive, like my Ultra towers do because of the way they're wired and have dual opposing 8" drivers.

I'm curious about your settings. What's your crossover point? In the speaker settings under "Bass" does it say "LFE" or "LFE+Main"? For most circumstances it should just be "LFE". In the Audyssey settings there are options for "Dynamic Volume" and "Audyssey LFC", among others. Those should both be off unless you're trying to quiet things down.

When it told you your subwoofer was too high did you turn the gain down until it was happy? Once you do that don't mess with the gain (volume) dial on your sub again. I leave that as is and adjust through the menus if I feel the need to bump it up a little bit, which I always do!

 

[KEW]

The "Out of phase" is a common thing. Just check to make sure none of your speaker cables were plugged in with reversed polarity to make sure!
If not, just ignore it!
The issues you are having are very much SOP, so don't get alarmed. Just let us know and there will be someone here to address your problem. Most of us have been there, done that!

 

[Coop2261]

What are your speakers and subwoofer(s)? How big is your room? How far do you sit from the front speakers?

I would blame Denon for setting your speakers to large. Even with truly "large" speakers I always go in behind it and set them to small. Otherwise you have no bass management (or bass, from your sub). As far as the out of phase warnings, again, need to know what speakers. Some will always give a false positive, like my Ultra towers do because of the way they're wired and have dual opposing 8" drivers.

I'm curious about your settings. What's your crossover point? In the speaker settings under "Bass" does it say "LFE" or "LFE+Main"? For most circumstances it should just be "LFE". In the Audyssey settings there are options for "Dynamic Volume" and "Audyssey LFC", among others. Those should both be off unless you're trying to quiet things down.

When it told you your subwoofer was too high did you turn the gain down until it was happy? Once you do that don't mess with the gain (volume) dial on your sub again. I leave that as is and adjust through the menus if I feel the need to bump it up a little bit, which I always do!

Thanks for the response greatly appreciate it,
My speakers are Cambridge soundworks MC300, MC200, and S200 with a Klipsch KSW10 subwoofer my room is 12x15 and I'm roughly about 7 feet away from the main speakers 4 feet from the surround speakers.
I set all my speakers to small and crossover to 150 because the largest driver is only 3 inches. As for the subwoofer that is set to LFE 120Hz and the Audyssey LFC is set to off.
WhenAudyssey told me my subwoofer was to high I did turn the gain down until it was and I haven't touched it since.

Thanks
Coop

 

[Coop2261]

The "Out of phase" is a common thing. Just check to make sure none of your speaker cables were plugged in with reversed polarity to make sure!
If not, just ignore it!
The issues you are having are very much SOP, so don't get alarmed. Just let us know and there will be someone here to address your problem. Most of us have been there, done that!

Thank you so much.
Coop