denon 485 vs yamaha v457 vs pioneer 515

[cyfman]

i know all these are "entry level" but i found the denon and yamaha refurbed for a good price,the pioneer is new for dollars more. i not afraid of buying refurb"s.any thoughts on which of these three would be better than the others. thanks for your help.

 

[jcPanny]

Entry level yamaha

The Yamaha HTR line tends to be cheaper from then the equivelent RX-V model. Look for a price around $200 for a new Yamaha HTR-5840 from an authorized dealer. I would also add the Onkyo 503 to your budget list. Some sites like ecost and ubid sell refurbished models with a warranty.