Denon 4306 Audio Frequency Input Question

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Spartykjc5389

Audiophyte
Forgive my less than substantial knowledge about these things, but I'm new to this. I'm setting up my Playstation 3, and have a question about how to set up the audio. I am using HDMI to output via LPCM to the 4306 from the PS3. My question is, of the long list of audio output settings, which can be chosen? I have a 7.1 setup that I will detail below.

Center - Def. Tech C/L/R 2500
Front Towers - 2x Def. Tech BP7002 Supertowers
Side Surrounds - 2x Def. Tech BPVX Surrounds
Rear Surrounds - 2x Def. Tech UIW BP/A Surrounds
Subwoofer - Def. Tech Supercube Reference

I just want to be positive that I won't damage my speakers, so any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
I'm not sure what you mean by a long list of audio output settings, but if the question is will PCM damage the receiver or speakers the answer is No. The speakers reproduce an analog signal and the receiver does digital to analog conversion before amplifying and sending the signal to the speakers.

Other things can damage speakers but not the format of the input or output signal to/from the receiver.
 
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Spartykjc5389

Audiophyte
To Clarify

What I meant by different audio outputs is:

Dolby Digital 5.1Ch
DTS 5.1Ch
AAC
LPCM 2ch 44.1kHz
LPCM 2ch 88.2kHz
LPCM 2ch 176.4kHz
" " 48kHz
" " 96kHz
" " 192kHz
LPCM 5.1Ch 44.1kHz
" " 88.2kHz
" " 176.4kHz
" " 48kHz
" " 96kHz
" " 192.4kHz
All the way up to LPCM 7.1Ch 192kHz

What I'm unsure about is how these affect my reciever and speakers and whatnot. I don't want to break anything. Because of this, I'm afraid to change away from the default audio settings for my PS3. The problem with this is, I have a 7.1 reciever but am unsure what to do settings-wise to enable it. The frequencies confuse me.
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Ok, I think I see why you are concerned. Are you thinking that LPCM 88.2 kHz will deliver an 88.2 kHz frequency which is way beyond your speaker's capability and could damage them? Have no fear as that is not what that spec means.

LPCM 88.2 kHz means Linear Pulse Code Modulation with a sampling frequency off 88.2 kHz. PCM is raw digital audio - a sequence of numbers (but that is irrelevant for the moment).

Digital audio is created by 'sampling' an analog waveform a certain number of times per second. At each instant in time, the amplitude of the signal at that point is calculated and that becomes the sample value. So 88.2 kHz means that the original analog signal was sampled 88,200 times per second and thusly there are 88,200 samples for every second of audio. If the format happens to be say 7.1 LPCM 88.2 kHz then there are 8 distinct channels - each with 88,200 samples per second - so the receiver sees 8*88,200 samples per second (which incidentally is why such a format cannot be passed over the s/pdif digital interface, it's way too much data).

Now when the receiver gets that PCM data stream it converts it back into analog, amplifies it, and sends that to the speakers. So your speakers won't see an analog frequency of 88.2 kHz - they'll see whatever frequencies were part of the recording. Given that human hearing is generally 20 Hz - 20 kHz, it's rare that any frequencies much beyond 20 kHz get recorded.

You have nothing to worry about.
 
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Spartykjc5389

Audiophyte
So...

So does this mean that I can select all of them? Can my receiver support all of them? I'm new to this, I'm sorry.
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
The LPCM formats you listed are not something you can select on the receiver.

I'm not familiar with the PS3 so I have no idea if all those settings are available because the PS3 is capable of upsampling to those higher sampling frequencies or it is just a list of the available formats it can output if they are on the source disc you are playing.

Regardless, you can't hurt the receiver. If you try to send the receiver 192 kHz LPCM and it doesn't have 192 kHz DACS, you will hear nothing.
 
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Spartykjc5389

Audiophyte
Okay, one last thing...

Okay, I'll just select them all and if I ever have trouble, try to find out why I guess. I probably won't have trouble though. One last question though... Does the Denon4306AVR support uncompressed 7.1 LPCM Playback via hdmi?
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Spartykjc5389 said:
What I meant by different audio outputs is:

Dolby Digital 5.1Ch
DTS 5.1Ch
AAC
LPCM 2ch 44.1kHz
LPCM 2ch 88.2kHz
LPCM 2ch 176.4kHz
" " 48kHz
" " 96kHz
" " 192kHz
LPCM 5.1Ch 44.1kHz
" " 88.2kHz
" " 176.4kHz
" " 48kHz
" " 96kHz
" " 192.4kHz
All the way up to LPCM 7.1Ch 192kHz

What I'm unsure about is how these affect my reciever and speakers and whatnot. I don't want to break anything. Because of this, I'm afraid to change away from the default audio settings for my PS3. The problem with this is, I have a 7.1 reciever but am unsure what to do settings-wise to enable it. The frequencies confuse me.
Not sure what that Denon receiver is capable of but am sure it will do DD/DTS 5.1. It might do LPCM 44.1 as well. If that receiver can do SACD or DVD-A, then one of those codes. So, it should also support the blu-ray dvds.
 
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