Dennon DRA 697 CI High Pass filter and sub out ?

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Pounce

Enthusiast
Trying to set up the DRA-697 CI.and the Dennon owners manual sucks. At what frequency does the high pass filter cut off from the main speakers? 120 hz and below? Does it effect the sub out? What frequency does the sub out send to the sub? 80hz,,120hz? Thanks for your help.
 
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Pounce

Enthusiast
Does this sound right, ImcLoud? The Dennon is driving a pair of Paradigm Mini's and a Velodyne Sub. On the Dennon, I set the high pass filter to on. On the sub I set the frequency to 80 and below, and the volume at 11 o'clock. I wish Dennon would say what frequency that high pass filter cuts off to the Mini's. It would make it much easier to set the sub frequency.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Hi, Pounce. I searched that manual, too, and couldn't find it. I have a couple of suggestions:

1. If that Denon works like every other receiver that I've used/researched, it will only send frequencies to the sub that are below the crossover point (high pass filter frequency). If I'm correct, then you'll want to set the dial on the sub itself to as high of a frequency as you can. Because the Denon is doing the filtering, you don't want the sub to use its internal filter and potentially filter out any frequencies.

2. If you want to figure out where that crossover is set, you can play a set of test tones that play at a single frequency per tone. You'd turn the speakers off and the sub on, and play increasing frequency tones until you can't hear the sub - that should indicate the crossover point. You could then turn off the sub and turn on the speakers, and replay the tones to see if the point where you couldn't hear the sub is also the point where you can now start hearing the speakers. There will probably be some small overlap of frequencies on the sub and speakers because that filter isn't an immediate cut off, but rather a slope. So, the speakers will begin to get quieter as the frequency reaches that point, and the sub will begin to get louder. Filters that I've seen change at about 12dB/octave. You can download those tones off of the internet for free. They are just sine waves. As a note, don't play them incredibly loud for very long, but playing them at 70-75dB for 3-5 seconds shouldn't hurt anything.
 
anamorphic96

anamorphic96

Audioholic General
You could also try contacting Denon. Not trying to be smart *** either. But I have often found it works.:)
 
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Pounce

Enthusiast
You could also try contacting Denon. Not trying to be smart *** either. But I have often found it works.:)

I am not trying to be a smart**s either; but it is Sunday, and I would rather hear what the experts on this forum say, than try to call Dennon during work hours. Dennon makes a good product, but their manuals leave a lot to be desired.
 
M Code

M Code

Audioholic General
You are confusing issues...
1. If a loudspeaker (fronts, center, surrounds) are set to SMALL, all of its lower bass frequencies are redirected and low passed to the subwoofer out. This is directly linked to match the x-over frequency setting for the high pass to the respective, selected loudspeakers
2. Regarding the subwoofer x-over setting for the LFE (.1) track this setting is separate from #1. However within the audio DSP, the redirected low bass frequencies and LFE are mixed together and outputted through subwoofer out. Note that some AVRs such as Yamaha and HK, provide separate trim level controls for subwoofer and LFE.

Just my $0.05.... ;)
 

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