Definitive technology supercube reference VS?

[biturboi6]

I've been offered a good deal on a Definitive Technology Supercube Reference. It will cost me slightly less than a PB12-plus with shipping.

Retail price wise, the Reference goes up against some heavy hitters. PB-13 Ultra seems like the no brainer in its price range. However, I am not paying 13 Ultra prices.

Basically, my question is, what does the Reference compete against PERFORMANCE wise?

I feel like this sub would bridge the gap performance wise, between the 12-plus and the 13-ultra. Is this accurate? Am I underrating this sub? Is it actually on par with a 13-ultra.

I know you guys will be able to help me

 

[AVRat]

I think the Epik Empire would be in that playing field.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

A Definitive Technology Trinity would be on par with an Ultra.

Am I underrating this sub? Is it actually on par with a 13-ultra.

I know you guys will be able to help me

 

[smihalik]

I've been offered a good deal on a Definitive Technology Supercube Reference. It will cost me slightly less than a PB12-plus with shipping.

Retail price wise, the Reference goes up against some heavy hitters. PB-13 Ultra seems like the no brainer in its price range. However, I am not paying 13 Ultra prices.

Basically, my question is, what does the Reference compete against PERFORMANCE wise?

I feel like this sub would bridge the gap performance wise, between the 12-plus and the 13-ultra. Is this accurate? Am I underrating this sub? Is it actually on par with a 13-ultra.

I know you guys will be able to help me

I was about to post more or less the same question! Being in Canada our options are rather limited. You could also check out Funkywaves.com

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Save your money...get an Ultra...be done with it...

I was about to post more or less the same question! Being in Canada our options are rather limited. You could also check out Funkywaves.com

 

[smihalik]

Save your money...get an Ultra...be done with it...

So tempted. An ultra is $2200 shipped in Canada though. Out of my budget right now

I have an offer on a Supercube Reference as well. $1450 shipped. I'm thinking Biturboi6 has been talking to the same person.

It's a tempting offer. It will cost me about $100 less than a pb-12plus.

Will it outperform a 12 plus though?

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Why ship it to Canada when you can just pick it up there?

So tempted. An ultra is $2200 shipped in Canada though. Out of my budget right now

I have an offer on a Supercube Reference as well. $1450 shipped. I'm thinking Biturboi6 has been talking to the same person.

It's a tempting offer. It will cost me about $100 less than a pb-12plus.

Will it outperform a 12 plus though?

 

[smihalik]

Why ship it to Canada when you can just pick it up there?

I mean shipping from the Canadian supplier SonicBoomAudio. They're in Toronto, I'm in Montreal. 6hr drive. Shipping is still $115.

 

[smihalik]

Does anybody know if the 1800W amp on this thing is RMS? If it is, that's awesome. If not it's a meaningless number.

 

[David Gaudreau]

So tempted. An ultra is $2200 shipped in Canada though. Out of my budget right now

I have an offer on a Supercube Reference as well. $1450 shipped. I'm thinking Biturboi6 has been talking to the same person.

It's a tempting offer. It will cost me about $100 less than a pb-12plus.

Will it outperform a 12 plus though?

Oh yeah it will! How about $1420.00 shipped???

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Does anybody know if the 1800W amp on this thing is RMS? If it is, that's awesome. If not it's a meaningless number.

Here is the answer from DefTech:

The amplifier ratings on our SuperCube subwoofers are "dynamic or peak" output ratings, however, their RMS ratings are pretty close.

For example, the SuperCube Reference subwoofer has a dynamic output of 1800 watts and an RMS output of 1500 watts.

Thanks,
Chet Pelkowski
Definitive Technology

 

[GlocksRock]

Here is the answer from DefTech:

The amplifier ratings on our SuperCube subwoofers are "dynamic or peak" output ratings, however, their RMS ratings are pretty close.

For example, the SuperCube Reference subwoofer has a dynamic output of 1800 watts and an RMS output of 1500 watts.

Thanks,
Chet Pelkowski
Definitive Technology

I find that very hard to believe.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I find that very hard to believe.

I recall Gene saying something about the ICE-power amps not being able to get above 50 watts of continous power, but have plenty of headroom - like 4dB or something. I'm wondering if ALL digital amps are like this?

Maybe their definition of "RMS" is different for the digital subwoofer amps.

 

[mannoiaj]

1500 watts RMS seems crazy for a single sub. Not sure why they wouldn't have picked out a less sensitive driver if that much power is actually needed. Perhaps its a strong selling point that it has alot of power?..