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cbraver

Audioholic Chief
You couldn't give me a pair of "DEAF"-Tech's, as many quality speaker manufacturers call them. I HIGHLY recommend you go and listen to them before you buy them, especially coming from Dynaudio. Those Audience 52s are great speakers, especially for the money!

If you absolutely need something "sleaker" and on the wall and want to upgrade your sound.... look into M&Ks Plasma series MP-150s. They look good and sound good too.

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-Chad
 
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fyrmedic01@hotm

Junior Audioholic
at an msrp of 1000 a pop they will be a little out of my range...I do need to audition anything before I buy but there has to be somthing that is at least decent similar in designe to the "deaf Techs" :) I know I am taking a big hit in sound quality and a loss in the wallet for what I paid for the Dyn's but thats the way it goes for now:)
 
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cbraver

Audioholic Chief
MSRP tends to be way higher than what they actually sell for. You might want to look into what they will actually cost you. Even if they are above your budget, do they look nice to her? Just to give us an idea on what is considered "nice" looking (Because I think the Dyn's look better than those Deaf Techs AND the M&Ks, you know?)

Man, I hate to see you sell those 52s, but, that's life when your married, eh?!

Can't you just get some nice stands for them or something? Haha.

I'm trying to think what would be less expensive but still of quality that you would enjoy too.


-Chad
 
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cbraver

Audioholic Chief
What about Monitor Audio? Those things are beautiful and they sound pretty good too!

I mean, she can't tell you this isn't pretty and the price isn't crazy:
http://www.monitoraudio.com/products/silver/series/s2.htm

The bass on those S2s is pretty impressive too.... if she says absolutely NO to a subwoofer. Depending on what you listen to, you might not care that you don't have a subwoofer...which are the hardest to pass by a wife from what I have seen on here!

Maybe an S6 if you want a tower, also very nice looking:
http://www.monitoraudio.com/products/silver/series/s6.htm

-Chad
 
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fyrmedic01@hotm

Junior Audioholic
cbraver-here is the deal...I have to go to everything on or in wall...1yr old loves speaker stands ect..My budge will be whatever I end up selling the dyn's for Plus fudge a couple hundred bucks here or there:) she wants somthing that does not look like a big box stuck on the wall....IE the deaf techs...(now you have me sayin that) I KNOW that onwall speaker tech is not quite there but I don't have much of a choice...Mounting the dyn's on the wall is not an option..Believe me I have gone round and round with this one...I have never looked for on wall speakers before I will run the M&K's by her and see what she says I am sure I will get "ugly." Life is full of compromise(sp?) I don't want her to seem like and evil person..she is worried for the safety of our daughter and she is a great mother so I just have to see what is out there brand wise? thats why a am calling out to the forum to let me know what may sound decent and look OK??? She actually does not mind how the dyn's look...it is more the child safety factor..anything on the floor is out...it is too much of a pain in the ---
to be constantly chasing her saying..no no no:) so I am left with on/in wall stuff. I know that Monitor Audio has some wall stuff and I plan on auditioning them..there has got to be somthing out there. I allready have a sub and I don't care that she climbs on it..(she so far uninterested anyhow)
I am looking for front L,R,and center only...the sats are not a problem.
 
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BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Sonance makes some great in-walls for sure, but the Mythos Series from Def-Tech is also pretty tough to beat. I'm not a big fan of the sub-powered series from them, but their unpowered speakers sound fantastic in my opinion. You get very good sound without dropping an extra $1,000.00 on a walnut cabinet for your speakers that do nothing for the sound. May piss people off that they waste money on the competition, but the sound from them is typically considered some of the best for the money, especially in a theater environment - and after they are broken in.

I just picked up the Sonance Silverscreen 50, on-wall (wife & son issues - mostly son), and it doesn't come close to the quality of the Def-Tech I own. The Mythos was my first choice for hitting the range and having the look and quality I wanted. To $$$ for me though.
 
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fyrmedic01@hotm

Junior Audioholic
bmxtrix-thanx for the input...I am getting the love or hate em about the deftech's I am going to have to audition em my self..they definately have the WAF I am looking for.

-Chris
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
NOTE: While Home Theater may not be one of the less-biased magazines, the Mythos speakers were just named product of the year from them. Not in the speaker category, but the overall product of the year.

The use of aluminum to create a resonant free cabinet that is designed specifically to be listened to off angle so that sounds reach your ears correctly is one heck of a concept. It just blows me away how they combine a budget minded conciousness with excellent engineering. How they sat down and said "On wall speakers look dumb when they are pointed at different angles, let's make them sound better when pointed straight into the room." - "Let's make sure that these things look really good and have them available in colors that match a room and can be painted to match perfectly, but do NOT give up sound quality." - "Make sure the price stays reasonable!" - "Let's use aluminum to improve sound quality, decrease weight, and allow the speaker to hang on the wall... Krell does it with their $30,000.00 speakers, it's a great way to do it and shouldn't cost so much."

I would definitely get them myself if cash allowed right now.
 
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GeorgeM

Audioholic
A solid vote for the DefTechs from me! I'm using Mythos One's and Three at one end of the spectrum and I've never been dissatisfied (I would have exercised the return option if I did not like 'em).

There's also a new mini-Mythos in the stores (believe it's called the GEM) that can be used for side or back surrounds.

I also have a pair of ten-year-old DR-7's used as side-surrounds; still performing well.

I'm not a die-hard DefTech fan but I like what I hear...

-GeorgeM
 
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ULTE

Audiophyte
mythos one

Amazing sound for something with such a beautiful design! Much better upper midrange and highs than I expected, also the ability to play loud without distorting for such a small driver is amazing. Yes, go ahead and listen to them. I was unimpressed by the BP series sound (however they do have great bass) and the problem with quality issues. They have perked my interest in Definitive again. The mythos one even have a slightly higher treble than the bigger mythos five. They are such a different speaker that you cant compare them with the BP series sound.
 
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fyrmedic01@hotm

Junior Audioholic
thanks for the info they are high on my list to audition
 
Khellandros66

Khellandros66

Banned
Some people really need shove more money down their throats, I have listened to the full line of Definitive Speakers, as well a B&W, Paradigm and M&K. Out of these the $/Performance Definitive wins hands down. There are those of us who seek performance w/o a $30000 loan. IMO Dynaudio is a huge rip off, along with any other speaker system over $2500 per pair. Come on $30000 speaker used with a $15 CD/DVD...

~Bob
 
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Reorx

Full Audioholic
/cry

I have a 7month old son, and just got some speakers towers. /sigh

Guess I'll have to get some "In the wall" speakers to appease the wife.
Great thread. Thanks for the info.

Reorx
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
Not to step on toes, but Def Tech just don't do it for me. I am not out to start any mess, I just thought I would give an opinion.
 
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cbraver

Audioholic Chief
zumbo said:
Not to step on toes, but Def Tech just don't do it for me. I am not out to start any mess, I just thought I would give an opinion.
Nod. Ditto.
 
Khellandros66

Khellandros66

Banned
Just don't knock a company because its not to your liking...

Instead of saying Deaf techs. Why not say, I didn't like em because I felt there was a deadspot or a little tizzy or whatever goonie words. I still think that buying a super expensive gear for $15-35 media is pointless. Most people don't like Definitive because of the bipolar sound, and time after time I have to explain that most places that demo them, the room accoustics aren't properly setup for it.

~Bob
 
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Joshr

Enthusiast
Mythos

I am incredibly impressed by the Mythos speaker system--especially the Ones. I expected them to sound thin, especially at low end b/c the "cabinet" (if you can even call that aluminum tower a cabinet) is so small and the drivers are small. But I was amazed! Also, they do a beautiful job of integrating the Supercube sub. That's the key cause you can't really enjoy these speakers without the sub filling in the lows; it's amazing how well blended the speakers and sub are, but the Supercubes are expensive, and you really can't go without one and can't substitute a different sub cause the whole system is engineered to work together, and it really works.

Here's the thing, though: the Ones are very tall floorstanders, so they don't really solve the in/on wall need, and the Twos, which can be wall mounted on either side of your flat panel, are really small and just don't do it for me for music and depend so heavily on the sub. So ultimately I decided to pass....if I didn't have a toddler and another on the way, I might have gone for the Ones b/c I loved the way they sound, but they are just begging to be pushed over by a munchkin! Not very kid-friendly.

Also, re those who were dissing Def Tech overall: be sure that you are familiar with the Mythos line in particular. I absolutely hate the Def Techs with the big side firing woofers (can't recall the model name), but the Mythos line is a completely different design for a completely different purpose...they don't look or sound anything like the other Def Techs.

--Josh
 
Khellandros66

Khellandros66

Banned
I personally think that Side firing or even subwoofers in a tower in general is a big mistake, mostly on the part that accoustically its limited on positioning.

~Bob
 
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