Def Tech BP-8020ST?

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Proceeding soon to build a new HT into another room and I would like to (see sig) if you guys would think that Def Tech's BP-8020ST would match nicely with the Def Tech ProCenter 1000?

I would like to use my current ProMonitor 1000 for the rear - surround sound,
keep my ProCenter 1000 as the front center and getting some towers for the front and really considering the BP-8020ST.

Any takers would think this would be a nice sound setup?

Thanks

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Ideally, you want to match the size of the tweeters and midrange.

The ProCenter 1000 has 1" tweeter & 4.5" midrange.

The 8020 tower has 1" tweeter & 3.5" midrange.

The 8060 tower has 1" tweeter & 4.5" midrange.

So the best fit would be the 8060 with your ProCenter 1000.

However, that is theoretical.

In real life, I think the 8020 tower & ProCenter 1000 should be just fine.

 

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Ideally, you want to match the size of the tweeters and midrange.

The ProCenter 1000 has 1" tweeter & 4.5" midrange.

The 8020 tower has 1" tweeter & 3.5" midrange.

The 8060 tower has 1" tweeter & 4.5" midrange.

So the best fit would be the 8060 with your ProCenter 1000.

However, that is theoretical.

In real life, I think the 8020 tower & ProCenter 1000 should be just fine.

Cool!! Yea I just called the dealer and they have it in stock for demo. I told him about my ProCenter 1000 and he told me that it would not be recommended due to the drop off freq that the procenter 1000 has and would not match well with the Center it is recommended with the 8020's.

Have you by any chance heard the 8020's?

Do you like to 8020's voer the BP6b or BP8b?

Thanks

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I have not heard any of the newer Def Tech.

The BP-8080 measured pretty well:

The BP-8080ST’s listening-window response (a five-point average of axial and +/–15-degree horizontal and vertical responses) measures +3.12/–2.11 decibels from 200 hertz to 10 kilohertz. The –3-dB point is at 35 Hz, and the –6-dB point is at 33 Hz. Impedance reaches a minimum of 4.58 ohms at 273 Hz and a phase angle of –34.63 degrees at 179 Hz.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/definitive-technology-bp-8080st-speaker-system-ht-labs-measures

So I think the BP8020 would also measure well, except with less bass than the BP8080.

Don't listen to SOME of those sales people. They will tell you anything to sell. Some sales people are more honest and knowledgeable than others. Just set you Center to SMALL on the receiver.

 

[its phillip]

Is there not a matching center for the BP8000 series towers? Why not just try to sell the ProCenter and get a matching center?

Of course, there's no harm in getting the new speakers, trying it with your current center, and seeing if you like it or not. You could also try going without a center at all if you decide the ProCenter can't keep up with the new speakers.

 

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I have not heard any of the newer Def Tech.

The BP-8080 measured pretty well:

The BP-8080ST’s listening-window response (a five-point average of axial and +/–15-degree horizontal and vertical responses) measures +3.12/–2.11 decibels from 200 hertz to 10 kilohertz. The –3-dB point is at 35 Hz, and the –6-dB point is at 33 Hz. Impedance reaches a minimum of 4.58 ohms at 273 Hz and a phase angle of –34.63 degrees at 179 Hz.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/definitive-technology-bp-8080st-speaker-system-ht-labs-measures

So I think the BP8020 would also measure well, except with less bass than the BP8080.

Don't listen to SOME of those sales people. They will tell you anything to sell. Some sales people are more honest and knowledgeable than others. Just set you Center to SMALL on the receiver.

Thanks, you for sure get more into detail then I ever would.
I just want to make sure that if I was to go wit hthe 8020 and using the ProCenter1000 and hope that it would blend well. Which basically means that the 3.0 (front and center speakers) will sound good across each other and not sound like Chris Rock, when it suppose to sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Thanks

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Thanks, you for sure get more into detail then I ever would.
I just want to make sure that if I was to go wit hthe 8020 and using the ProCenter1000 and hope that it would blend well. Which basically means that the 3.0 (front and center speakers) will sound good across each other and not sound like Chris Rock, when it suppose to sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Thanks

I think if the ProCenter 1000 sounded great before, it will sound great with the BP8020.

Don't sweat it. It is all good.

 

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After talking with a good friend that is a Def Tech fan, he highly recommend to get towers w/o subs since I already running duals.

So with that being said, I could not resist a deal that Vanns had going.

I purchased a pair of Definitive Technology BP6B for $280.00.

Can't wait to get them in

 

[psbfan9]

I purchased a pair of Definitive Technology BP6B for $280.00.

A PAIR for $280.00, total? Or $280.00 EACH speaker?

 

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A PAIR for $280.00, total? Or $280.00 EACH speaker?

OOPS I mean for a pair.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

OOPS I mean for a pair.

How in the world did you get $280 for TWO BP6B???

I thought they cost $400 each?

 

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How in the world did you get $280 for TWO BP6B???

I thought they cost $400 each?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I mean I got them for 280.00 each.

So I got a pair for $560.00 shipped.

My bad to get everyone that got all excited!! If they were $260 for a pair. I would have purchased the LOT.

But honestly, I got the last two that they had.

I felt it was a good deal versus $400 each. So a savings of $240

 

[cpp]

I'm also looking at the BP8020ST or the BP8040STwith the CS8040 center and 2 SR8040BP surrounds for rears.

Will a Yamaha RX-V657 push these speakers. Room size 15'W x 14'D X 13'H. Hardwood floors with a large rug. Movies/HDTV 70% , Music 30%

Another question, I have heard the BP7006's but didn't like the woofer pointing at my receiver and TV, are these BP speakers worth it or stick to non BP speakers.

I currently have Revel's Concerta F12's which have been moved to the man cave upstairs with my NAD amp/preamp .., wife won this one.

 

[AVRat]

You’re concern is with the powered woofer, not the BP nature of the speaker. The BP-10/8/6s don’t have the powered woofer firing to the sides. The BPs require more space behind them so in your space a sealed/front-ported direct radiating speaker design may be a better option. The PSB Image T5/C5/S5 comes to mind with a real sub (Epik Legend).

The 657 will power the DT/PSBs just fine.

 

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Thank you AVRat for the comments.

I have been looking at the PSB's you noted, Martin Logan Motion 12's and Kef Q700's and the Monitor Silver RX6

My music taste are classic rock, blues and bluegrass a 70% -30% split with HDTV getting the most use.

Question on the sub; since I'm and nor is the wifey into loud booming bass (her ears) would a 8" or 10" work in the room noted. Also I need to keep the clutter out of the room.

That was a reason I was looking at the BP8020, BP8040 and the older BP7006 as the sub could be omitted. Just a thought, suggestions ?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

...nor is the wifey into loud booming bass...need to keep the clutter out of the room...

My wife also hates bass. When I had the BP7000SCs, I had to turn down the subwoofer level way down. And she made me turn off the Trinity subwoofer completely.

So any of the speakers with built-in subs should work just fine if you just want bass in the 30Hz - 40Hz region.

Other options include the DefTech Mythos STS (~ 27Hz - 20kHz +/- 3dB/ Room Response Stereophile):

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-Mythos-Supertower-Speaker/dp/B00170KRIM/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1300892709&sr=1-5

NHT Classic Four (27Hz - 20kHz +/- 3dB/ Manufacturer):

http://www.amazon.com/NHT-Classic-Four-Speaker-Left/dp/B001763LWU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1300892895&sr=1-1

My wife thinks the Infinity P362s have excellent bass (manufacturer says ~ 38Hz bass response @ -3dB). Electronics-Expo has the P362 for $169 ea + $40 shipping ea.

 

[AVRat]

Those speakers are good options and will provide most of the frequency requirements for music/movies. However, to obtain a better HT experience, a true sub is necessary to extend the frequency range down to, at least, the full audible range (~20 Hz). Try not to think of the sub as the “THUMPER” that goes by you on the street. When properly integrated, you shouldn’t be able to tell that the bass is not coming from your main speakers. And it’s not going to play any frequency, say 50 Hz, any different than the main speakers. If you go with the sub, you could then consider the KEF Q500/ML Motion 10.

If size is an issue, then I’d suggest the SVS SB12-NSD. It’s sealed so it only fires into the room and still provides decent output to 21 Hz.

 

[cpp]

Again thank you for the information..