CRT HDTVs that don't upscale 720p to 1080i?

nick_danger

nick_danger

Audioholic
I'm looking to get a 34" (or similar size) widescreen tube HDTV, but I seem to have only two options:

No support for 720p

or

Upscaling 720p to 1080i

I am 100% against interlaced signals. I would rather have the image dumbed down to 480/540p than lose the progressive image.

Please suggest away!

P.S. - I'm only referring to Direct View CRTs...
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

Audioholic Field Marshall
I'm with you on progressive images. But I wouldn't let that stop you from buying a CRT that only displays 1080i. It's debatable whether 720P looks better than 1080i. Both look terrific. My in-laws have a 34" Panasonic WS HDTV connected to their Comcast HD box using 1080i. The picture looks spectacular and is a significant improvement over 480P DVD images.

Good luck either way.
 
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yev

Enthusiast
There are a couple of things that need to be cleared up here.

720p image is better then 1080I image.

So if you are trying to "upscale" from 720p to 1080I in reality you are actually going down in quility.

1080I is equivalent to 480p, there are about the same number of lines displayed on the screen for both. 1080I interlaced displays about 500 lines (every other line is displayed) just like 480p (every line is displayed)

Yev
 
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izub

Audioholic Intern
That seems wrong according to the dictionary at AV 101 forum. Interlaced is projected at twice the speed of Progressive, effectively the same or better resolution. I have read where they are indistinguishable with Prog being better for fast movements like sports. Here's the definition

Interlaced
A method of displaying a video image in which all the odd lines are drawn first and then all the even lines are drawn next. Interlaced video uses two fields (all the odd lines or all the even lines) to create a single frame or complete image. Interlaced video is the standard for analog NTSC video distribution.

Interlaced video is different from non-interlaced video, which paints each line on the screen in order. The interlaced video method was developed to save bandwidth when transmitting signals but it can result in a shakier, less detailed image than non-interlaced video. Most computer screens use non-interlaced video. The digital television standard will allow for the use of both interlaced and non-interlaced video formats with the highest quality HDTV signal being in an interlaced format.
 
Here are some "layman" definitions for you to help understand the two types of signals:

Interlaced = Half of the picture all of the time.

Progressive = All of the picture, all of the time.
 
nick_danger

nick_danger

Audioholic
OK, regardless of the resolution or which is "better", I still prefer progressive to interlaced, I'm really sensitive to screen flicker. So that still brings up my original question, which is:

CRTs that don't convert progressive images to interlaced.

Personally, I don't care if 1080i content remains 1080i, because there isn't much of it out there that I'm going to be watching. This TV is going to be full-time DVD and Xbox, so 480p is the most important, and the option to maintain 720p signals as progressive would be a perk, if anything. I just don't want regular TV and 480p to be scaled to interlaced, that's my barebones requirement.
 
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