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Cygnus

Senior Audioholic
So, as of right now, I don't have a subwoofer, just a 5.0 setup.

I have Front set as big, center set as small, and surround set as small and subwoofer set as no, in my receivers setup menu.


I was playing with my Crosspver in the receiver setup just now, and I set it to 250Hz (it was origionally at 80Hz). I now have alot more bass when listening in DTS Neo:6, Dolby PLII and Dolby Digital.

Is this because the crossover is for the center and surrounds when there isnt a sub?
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Crossover applies to every speaker you have set to small. That bass is redirected to the mains when you have no sub. 250Hz is REALLY high, too high for most speakers except maybe Bose, IMO.
 

Buckle-meister

Audioholic Field Marshall
Cygnus said:
I might try 150Hz
I believe this is still pretty high.

Look at your speakers specifications and try setting the crossover to the setting on or one above the largest minimum (confusing huh?!)frequency response of any speaker (probably about 60 or 80Hz). In this way, you will not be 'pushing' any speaker beyond it's intended range.

This is were it would normally be set, but that by no means means ( ;) ) that you should implement it.

Let the ears decide!

Regards
 
droeses58

droeses58

Audioholic
Depending on your surround speakers and center speaker, with no sub are you sure you even want to have a crossover setting? I would think that with no sub you would want all the bass you can get so if your other speakers can handle it I would set them all to large! no?
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Sending Low frequencies to the center and suround speakers that they cannot reproduce will just cause, muddy distorted sound.
It will also prevent the speaker from cleanly producing some of the high frequencies that they are capable of producing.

Pick a crossover frequency that matches your speakers and save up for a decent subwoofer.
 
droeses58

droeses58

Audioholic
jcPanny said:
Sending Low frequencies to the center and suround speakers that they cannot reproduce will just cause, muddy distorted sound.
It will also prevent the speaker from cleanly producing some of the high frequencies that they are capable of producing.

Pick a crossover frequency that matches your speakers and save up for a decent subwoofer.
I understand this, however without knowing what his speakers are, isn't this kind of tough to say? With my system my fronts and surrounds are both rated at roughly 38Hz. So If I didn't have a sub [which I do] why would I set the fronts to large and crossover the surrounds?
 
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Cygnus

Senior Audioholic
I set it to 100Hz. I think that this is pretty good for my setup as it is now.

FYI, my mains are rated at 35~20K (Hz).

In the new house I will have a proper 6.1 setup in my room.
 
annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
What are the rest of your speakers rated at? Are the ratings within a +/- 3 db tolorance? You may be able to get the crossover point lower to allow for better subwoofer integration. Let us know. :)
 
Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
Cygnus said:
So, as of right now, I don't have a subwoofer, just a 5.0 setup.

I have Front set as big, center set as small, and surround set as small and subwoofer set as no, in my receivers setup menu.


I was playing with my Crosspver in the receiver setup just now, and I set it to 250Hz (it was origionally at 80Hz). I now have alot more bass when listening in DTS Neo:6, Dolby PLII and Dolby Digital.

Is this because the crossover is for the center and surrounds when there isnt a sub?
Let me see if I have this straight: You are saying that you are cutting off more of the low end to your center and rear speakers, and as a result of this, you are getting more bass?
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Pyrrho said:
Let me see if I have this straight: You are saying that you are cutting off more of the low end to your center and rear speakers, and as a result of this, you are getting more bass?
That bass is being redirected to the mains...it doesn't just go off to outer space.
 
Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
j_garcia said:
That bass is being redirected to the mains...it doesn't just go off to outer space.
Right, he's got the mains set to large. Okay, thanks.
 
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