majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
I'd have figured Feldman would be the one who'd die from overdosing.
 
Really? Did you ever see the Two Coreys show? It was very obvious that Feldmen was getting his life together and Haim was mentally unstable. Of course, that was pre-divorce...
 
MinusTheBear

MinusTheBear

Audioholic Ninja
What is/was their drug(s) of choice? That part always interests me.
 
J

jamie2112

Banned
Just a little side info: Rick James dies at the same apt complex........I think it was coke and heroin at least thats whats being said on LA news stations....
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Haim's own words:

"I was working on 'Lost Boys' when I smoked my first joint," he told The Sun. "I did cocaine for about a year and a half, then it led to crack."

In recent years, he appeared in the A&E reality TV show "The Two Coreys" with his friend Corey Feldman. It was canceled in 2008 after two seasons. Feldman later said Haim's drug abuse strained their working and personal relationships.

In a 2007 interview on CNN's "Larry King Live," Haim called himself "a chronic relapser for the rest of my life."
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Corey Aim Found Dead!

Folks, just stumbled upon this after checking my yahoo email. This is truly sad indeed. My heart goes out to all of his family and friends. Here is a link:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/corey-haim-dies-at-38/37186?nc

Corey was just 38 years of age. May you RIP Corey.

Cheers,

Phil
 
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speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Yeah, it is truly sad to see another young actor pass away due to drug abuse. For heavens sake, Corey was only 38 years old. He had a lot of life to live if his addiction had been dealt with. Perhaps, he tried. However, in the end it got the better of him. RIP Corey. My heart goes out to all of his friends and family.



Cheers,

Phil
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
It is sad... yes... Tragic? Not so much. I know Hollywood gets all deep when one of their own dies, but let's keep thigns in perspective. It is sad that he died... like Brittany Murphy just weeks ago... River Pheonix years ago... and all the other talent before, after, and in between them in film, tv, and music. It's sad that they despite fame, fortune, and all the opportunity most can only dream of literally at their fingertips, they choose to self-destruct. And I want to be clear... they choose this outcome. It doesn't have to end this way for these people, but the choices they make... and maybe it's only the first one... to first decide to dabble in drugs... is all it takes to set the wheels in motion. It is said, but not tragic.

Tragic is my friends niece's husband who went into the hospital with chest pains at 32 years old and turned out to have some infection similar to flesh eating bacteria that once exposed to air literally bloomed throughout his body. An otherwise completely healthy father of three went into the hospial with a warm feeling in his chest and was dead 48 hours later. That's tragic.

Corey should still be here today as should just about all of them. But when you deliberately make decisions that are 180 degrees contrary to living a long and healthy life, it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise anymore.
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise anymore.
What surprises me is that we don't all die from some sort of overdose. I mean drugs are just that good. Ask Jamie, he'll tell ya. Life's alright but compared to being high ... I don't know why I'm not wrecked now. I guess maybe I'm giving this sobriety thing an honest effort but if it doesn't pan out ... :eek:

I believe that taking that high moral ground is risky at best but I'm a little superstitious. When it happens to somebody close to you blaming them for their actions and choices is of no comfort ... never mind if it happens to you.

I think he's better off dead than living like that. ;)
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
I can't imagine that being high is not better than being sober. Hell, I'm so stressed out all of the time I do sometimes think of grabbing the left over oxy's from shoulder surgery and popping a couple with a couple shots of chilled tequilla. I see my neighbor's brother who's literally high 7 out of 8 of waking hours. He sleeps more than anyone I know and is relaxed and smiling all the time...he's unemployed and sleeps at different friend's houses, but he doesn't care. I can't say I'm not jealous.

For me, though, I force moderation on the things I do do, and exclude the illegal things just out of princple. If I didn't take the "holier than though" line, I'd likely be a junkie.
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
I can't say I'm not jealous.
I was only kidding but I believe you're serious you waste-iod. :eek: :D :p

The problem obviously is that that life style is not sustainable and after not too long nothing else feels good so everything other than the addiction gets forsaken. Breaking that downward spiral is something that I've never fully understood the mechanics of but have been part of. Go figure. :rolleyes:
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
I was only kidding but I believe you're serious you waste-iod. :eek: :D :p

The problem obviously is that that life style is not sustainable and after not too long nothing else feels good so everything other than the addiction gets forsaken. Breaking that downward spiral is something that I've never fully understood the mechanics of but have been part of. Go figure. :rolleyes:
Seriously Alex, I'm not kidding. I arbitrarily stop drinking for some given amount of time just because. Not so much because I want to prove to myself that I don't need to drink, but because I need to know that I can completely stop drinking temporarily or permanently without being pissed about it. The day I get upset that I can't have a drink or a glass of wine is the day I know I have a problem. As much as I love good wine and great tequila, if you told me today I could never have either again, I'd be okay with it... but I need to prove that to myself now and then.
,
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
This really sucks. Haim and Feldman were going to make Lost Boys 3 and 4(a package deal contract) with script approval deffered to them as a condition, to make it a proper sequel set (unlike Lost Boys 2 which was no more than an exploitation of the original with a cameo of one of the Coreys).

-Chris
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
I have years of experience with opiates. I am a chronic pain sufferer - and while I usually only use my stuff for pain (and without the meds I am in pure hell - I have substantial permanent nerve damage that results in constant pain), I have used them for 'non-approved' recreational purposes on occasion. I am with the 'it's better than sober by far' vote. LOL. Call me what name you wish if you have some mightier than though attitude, I don't rightly care. I bet that nearly everyone has tried at least once, to get 'high' from something, be it pain medication, alcohol, weed, etc.. Some people get high by running - seriously - and it's exactly the same physically - as the body can produce enough morphine-related chemical under the right conditions to actually case a euphoric high(this is what runner's high is, btw). But I'll stick by the opinion that the right type and dose of opiate med(everyone has different subjective effects to different specific opiate types - so it's important to match to the person for optimum experience - and some people can not experience much positive effect from these from what I have read no matter what - but these are in the minority) can feel better than any other kind of experience(at least on the short term). The body's internal system of every day pain control and mood(happy, etc.) is actually controlled by excitation of the proper opoid receptors by internally generated chemicals. Using opiates is really/literally, just taking some manual control over the situation that normally happens naturally/automatically. If you were to block the opiate receptors of a normal person, they would likely be under some level of constant pain(as this is part of the body's natural pain management system) or at minimum experience more pain than normal and be under constant depression like effect, as these internal biological functions are critical to a human's normal operation.

BTW, it's far better than alcohol, and not just by feeling. It is perfectly safe in pharmaceutical grade, and does not cause body damage(unless you simply O.D. to the point that it makes your breathing slow to a critically low degree, and you suffocate), unlike alcohol, which has many damaging effects on the body when used chronically in doses to have substantial psychoactive effect(alcoholism). Before the bans on opiates OTC in 1914(the ban, btw, had nothing to do with any valid issue of 'addiction', etc.; in fact today addiction rates are more than 4x higher than when it was OTC!), many doctors would wean alcoholics off using opiates because of this, and supposedly, this had a very large effective result, unlike the popular 'AAA' stuff today.

But occasional use is not 'addiction', which is a whole other animal, and chemical dependence(such as I have, after years of daily use for medical application) is not addiction either; addiction is a psychological condition and an entirely different/separate issue.

O.D.s, though, from my research, come from mainly ignorance of the medication(s) and/or illegal substance(s) that have no quality control and can contain dangerous adulterants. Proper education and legal/safe sources would probably reduce % of O.D.s by a large number. OTC Legalization of such meds for any adult would save this nation billions in dollars and reduce the prison population by nearly 1/2, plus remove a huge sector of crime and stop a great deal of primitive persecution that tortures people today unjustly in this country, not to mention the substantial better treatment/management for chronic pain patients, which in the U.S. are generally treated very poorly. But that's another issue.....

I don't know a thing about Corey's issue, I'm really just commenting on general issues associated with opiates, addiction and associated issues. This is the Steam Vent, and I get really 'steamed' when I think of the irrational bull going on in this nation dealing with this subject.

-Chris
 
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j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Coroner report said no illegal substances were found in his system on initial examination; it was apparently another instance of lethal combination of prescription meds, many of which were found in the apartment with him. My guess is he was most likely taking them recreationally though, not all for medical reasons.

I think it was not going to be very likely for 3 and 4 to get made given the track record of these two over the years and with the bad publicity of 2.

We went through years with my brother being in and out of rehab. My dad just told me that yesterday was his 1yr anniversary of being clean and thankfully, he is doing very well.
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
Coroner report said no illegal substances were found in his system on initial examination; it was apparently another instance of lethal combination of prescription meds, many of which were found in the apartment with him. My guess is he was most likely taking them recreationally though, not all for medical reasons.
Too bad that people given such varied combination of meds are not educated thoroughly/properly on interaction of the medications under specific conditions. Maybe this could save a substantial number of lives? I guess my habit of doing extensive independent research of all medication that I take is not what everyone wants to do - but I certainly don't want to risk my life through such an accident of ignorance.

-Chris
 

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