connection question

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bob16

Audioholic Intern
I am still a month or more away from my room being done but my purchasing is almost over. Kinda got scared when I started looking at the back of my receiver and reading the meanual.
Denon AVR-2805
Oppo DVD
Paradigm Monitor 7
Paradigm cc-390
Paradigm adp-390
SVS 20-39i
(still need back surrounds)

anyway, do I need or want to hook up "video" connections to my receiver? I thought I was just going to run the HMVI cable from the cable box to the TV and the DVD to the TV then run optical cords from both to the receiver?? HELP!!! (thanks)
 
avliner

avliner

Audioholic Chief
Bob,

no big deal, you're gonna be fine and surpised when everything will be setup!
By the way, congrats on you new toys...

First off, connect your speakers into the 2805 back panel (red to red & black to black wires). If you're going to use bare wire, be sure to avoid any loose strands (to prevent short circuits) and that terminals are securely tightened. An easier way is to use banana plugs, though.

Secondly you'll need an RCA audio cable to connect your subwoofer in, so plug that cable on SW in to the 2805 SW out (located in the pre out area).

Video area is also easy to connect and the best picture quality will be thru component cable (the one with 3 pins, being 1 red, 01 blue & 1 green).If you don't have that option, use then S-Video, or in last case, composite video (the yellow RCA pin).

Plug then 1 component cable from cable box to one of the Denon inputs (it could be either TV, DBS, etc). You'll need then another component cable from monitor out (from the 2805), to the TV's monitor in. Now you have to connect the AUDIO cables from set top box to the 2805. If your box has optical digital and/or coax. digital, use that option first (in order to have multi-channel audio from HD broadcasts). If not, use the 2 RCA pin audio cable ( red / white) to the same input as you did in the video part above. For now, the TV is ok.

Next step is to connect your DVD into the 2805 and the procedure will be pretty much the same as above; i.e., video out from DVD to video in on 2805, then audio out (optical digital and/or dig. coax) from DVD to 2805 audio in.

By passing every component thru the receiver will allow you to manage everything accordingly ( e.g.: to apply any DSP to the TV sound though).

Well, basically you're done with the connections and now you have to proceed with some other setups on both, the 2805 and the DVD player, so get the manuals on and enjoy yourself for a while!

Be sure that everything is working properly (audio & video from all components, etc...).

Let us know how you're managing things afterwards. Good luck!

Cheers.
 
jonnythan

jonnythan

Audioholic Ninja
bob16 said:
I am still a month or more away from my room being done but my purchasing is almost over. Kinda got scared when I started looking at the back of my receiver and reading the meanual.
Denon AVR-2805
Oppo DVD
Paradigm Monitor 7
Paradigm cc-390
Paradigm adp-390
SVS 20-39i
(still need back surrounds)

anyway, do I need or want to hook up "video" connections to my receiver? I thought I was just going to run the HMVI cable from the cable box to the TV and the DVD to the TV then run optical cords from both to the receiver?? HELP!!! (thanks)
If your TV has two HDMI inputs, then you will need two HDMI cables - one from the Oppo to your TV and one from the cable box to your TV.

If your TV has one HDMI input, you have two options:

1) 3 HDMI cables and an HDMI switch. Oppo -> Switch, Cable box -> Switch, and Switch -> TV

2) 1 HDMI cable, for the Oppo (since it only upconverts over HDMI), and 2 component cables: Cable box -> receiver and receiver -> TV. You can go straight from the cable box to the TV with one cable, but going through the receiver gives you the flexibility to add more video sources like a VCR, game consoles, etc, by just hooking them into the receiver.

For audio, just run one optical cable from each source to your receiver as you mentioned.

Depending on your cable box and cable company, you may also need to run analog red/white audio cables from the cable box to the receiver. Some of my cable stations are not digital stations and pass only analog audio. My cable box does not pass this audio over the optical cable, so I need the red/white analog cables hooked up as well. The receiver will switch between the optical audio and analog audio as necessary.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
bob16 said:
anyway, do I need or want to hook up "video" connections to my receiver?
No, you can easily run the video directly to thr TV and the audio to the receiver. Thereare benefits to this I'll go into later

bob16 said:
I thought I was just going to run the HMVI cable from the cable box to the TV and the DVD to the TV then run optical cords from both to the receiver??
Yep. You most certainly can. That's what I do.

Here's what you will wind up with.

You'll select what you want to watch via the TV and what you want to listen to through the receiver via the receiver.

But wait...there's more!

If you run everything through the receiver, you will be forced to use the receiver whenever watching something. I don't know about you, but I don't always need or want what I'm watching coming through the big system. Things like the news, reruns of sitcoms, the wife's videos, the grandkids kid vids, and various other things are better served (to me) by the humble sound system built into the TV.

you cahn have a choice here.

When you connect the video from the sources to the TV, you'll notice that they also have a red/white analog outputs as well as the digital ones that you connect to the receiver.

You'll also notice that the TV has, for these inputs, corrosponding red/white analog input jacks. If you run those analog outputs from the source to the corrosponding analog inputs on the TV, you will have the choice of listening via the receiver (and speakers, subwoofer, et al) OR just using the speakers in the TV.

You don't even have to turn on the receiver when you use the TV speakers. When you want to use the big system, simply turn it's volume down.

It's only for movies or special programs that I call upon the abilities of the mighty Denon and her Athena sisters.
 
jonnythan

jonnythan

Audioholic Ninja
FWIW, I much prefer to use my receiver and speakers to watch all TV. The clarity and quality of my center channel are way beyond the pitiful TV speakers. It's not like I always have the volume turned way up. I can't see what advantage the TV speakers would give over a quality set of speakers.

As a matter of fact, I took the speakers *off* my TV ;)
 
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JKL1960

Audioholic
I have a 2805 and really like it. It's a very nice receiver.

The guys above have given perfect instructions on hookng it up.

Here is a tip on using the microphone to set up the amp. I've played around with the set up quite a bit and found that the following works very well.

First set up the microphone so that it sits flat and level at the same place your ears are in your sweet spot seating position. There is always a sweet spot or the ideal seat. A tripod makes setting up the mic very easy. Then run the calibration procedure. I will stand out of the path of any speakers or even leave the room. After it is finished you get to review what it found. The distances are usually spot on. The level adjustments are what interest me the most. Pay attention to the subwoofer level. If it is boosted or cut then go to your sub and adjust the same way. If the amp reduced the sub volume in setup you want to reduce your sub's volume and run the test again. Basically I end up using the sub volume for a reference point. I play with the sub volume until it sits at zero boost or cut and everything balances off of it.

I don't know if this is an official way to do it but I've been very happy with the results.

Another trick I learned was that my daughter and her freinds would often turn up my sub to listen to hip-hop mp3s with. I was concerned about this and would calibrate with the sub at max volume. It can be boosted via the remote but it isn't as easy as hitting the volume knob on the sub.

This annoyed her so it must have worked.:cool:
 
avliner

avliner

Audioholic Chief
markw said:
If you run those analog outputs from the source to the corrosponding analog inputs on the TV, you will have the choice of listening via the receiver (and speakers, subwoofer, et al) OR just using the speakers in the TV.
You don't even have to turn on the receiver when you use the TV speakers. When you want to use the big system, simply turn it's volume down.
Agree with you Mark,

that's the best way to do it and I have mine set exactly this way.

Cheers.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Have kids or grandkids, Johnny?

jonnythan said:
FWIW, I much prefer to use my receiver and speakers to watch all TV. The clarity and quality of my center channel are way beyond the pitiful TV speakers. It's not like I always have the volume turned way up. I can't see what advantage the TV speakers would give over a quality set of speakers.

As a matter of fact, I took the speakers *off* my TV ;)
I'm of the opinion that if I have to deal with this stuff over and over, at least I don't have to hear it in glorious surround sound. It'seasier to ignore.

Plus, the simplicity of operation is nextto none. In most cases the cable box can control he volume on the TV and, as for DVD's go, simply select the input on the TV, put it in, hit play and that's all there is to it.

It's so simple that even a caveman can do it. :D
 
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