Breville used to make a great conical burr grinder that wasn’t quite right for espresso but woulda been great for pour over or drip. Dunno if they still have it but I think it and the Oxo are very similar in many ways The Breville "Smart Grinder pro" I mentioned earlier is indeed a conical burr grinder... IMO it's fine settings are more than fine enough for espresso... but I'm not an espresso drinker.