Clueless!

[FnFancy]

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages! I have an issue. All kidding aside, I have recently purchased some front Polk monitors 70ii and a Polk psw10 sub (I know, polk subs are sub-par, I didn't know this at the time of purchase!). I originally had them hooked up top my JVC-RX-884V. I know, it's old and way out dated, but it did well. For some reason, I purchased a Denon x-2400h, the wife wasn't too pleased. Now, my question is this. With the AVR turned off I get audio out of my TV, (don't get excited, it's an old Vizio) but when the reciever is turned on I get no audio from the TV. For the time being, I would like the TV to act as my center channel, just until my wife gets over the reciever purchase. It's a slow game building a decent setup when she prefers the audio from the TV over the stereo! Well on to the meat and potatoes, Denon x-2400h, Polk monitor 70ii and Polk psw-10 woffer, PS4 hooked into hdmi port on reciever, hdmi out from reciever to TV. You guys are the best!

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[lovinthehd]

The tv speakers won't be able to be a true center channel. There is a way to set the avr up so you can use tv audio thru its own speakers for the wife, tho.

 

[FnFancy]

The tv speakers won't be able to be a true center channel. There is a way to set the avr up so you can use tv audio thru its own speakers for the wife, tho.

I know it can never be a true center. If the reciever is off, I can get audio through the TV, with the reciever on I don't get audio through the TV. Is there a way to make audio play through the TV while the reciever is on?

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[lovinthehd]

I know it can never be a true center. If the reciever is off, I can get audio through the TV, with the reciever on I don't get audio through the TV. Is there a way to make audio play through the TV while the reciever is on?

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Why do you need the receiver on for tv audio, tho? What's the source of the audio, in the tv itself or thru an input into the avr?

 

[FnFancy]

Rereading my post, I muddied up my explanations and my question. Let me try to clear it up. Video/audio source is connected to the reciever via hdmi in, reciever is connected to the TV via hdmi out. When my Denon x-2400h is turned off, while video/audio source is turned on, I get audio from my TV. When video/audio source is on, as well as the Denon x-2400h I get 2.1 audio through the stereo but no audio from the television. I would like to be able to have my stereo on, recieving sound from my speakers, as well as the audio playing through my TV.

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[lovinthehd]

Why would you want to do that? It will not be the best audio that way. Not something I've tried to do before, so I just did (have a different model Denon but believe they'd be the same for this) and no go. Think if the audio was sourced in the tv it might work with ARC, tho...but I don't have my tv setup except as a monitor so can't even try that (at least I'm not gonna hook it up to the net to test)....

 

[BMXTRIX]

You can't set it up this way. The receiver either extracts all the audio, and plays it back through the connected speakers, disabling TV audio completely, or it passes audio through to the TV speakers, and it doesn't play back audio through the connected speakers.

There is some technical reasoning behind this that comes down to how EDID is handled and typical use-case scenarios. At the end of the day, what you want to do is almost unheard of, so it is not an included feature as that would be very likely to confuse a lot of people if it were an available option.

There are people that will say "DON'T!" about things like this, but it's your gear and I get it. The simple reality is that if you don't have a center channel, then just tell the A/V receiver that you don't have one and it will split the center channel between the left and the right speakers evenly and it will 'ghost' the center channel through your existing speakers.

This is not just the proper way of doing this common setup, but it really is the only way.

Make sure your receiver has the center channel set for 'NONE', and you should be good to go.

 

[slipperybidness]

Why would you want to do that? It will not be the best audio that way. Not something I've tried to do before, so I just did (have a different model Denon but believe they'd be the same for this) and no go. Think if the audio was sourced in the tv it might work with ARC, tho...but I don't have my tv setup except as a monitor so can't even try that (at least I'm not gonna hook it up to the net to test)....

This is how you would have to do it, or if the source has a 2nd output, you run the 2nd OP directly to the TV.

It is not a good approach.

@FnFancy
Just get the wife used to TV exclusively through the speakers for a few weeks, THEN revert back to the TV speakers and see how long it takes before she complains about crappy sound.

 

[FnFancy]

Thank you for the responses, the only reason I raised this question was because that was how I had it set up with my old reciever. Though with that set up the source went directly to the TV and RCA cables ran from the TV to the reciever. I've been messing around with settings, I originally ran the set up with the microphone but have since changed a few things. Slowly but surely I'll build the system up. I will say this, you guys weren't lying when it comes to Polk subs, while the old reciever didn't show it's short Cummings this Denon sure does!

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