Charlie Watts leaves The Stones ?

Nomo

Nomo

Audioholic Samurai
At 68 I'll be happy to be breathing, let alone touring and playing the drums.
Sad news but at some point you just gotta know when to call it quits.

Maybe he can consider unretiring, then change his mind and reretire, only to unretire again and unreretire.

Oops sorry, Wrong thread for that rant.:eek:
 
CraigV

CraigV

Audioholic General
I love the Stones, but they’ve never been a good live band, and a what point do you say “enough is enough”? The man has a long & storied career - I say good on him.
 
J

jamie2112

Banned
I love the Stones, but they’ve never been a good live band, and a what point do you say “enough is enough”? The man has a long & storied career - I say good on him.
Ok I am calling foul here.The Stones are not my favorite band out there,but I have worked as local crew on a bunch of their shows since the 80's and they are a GREAT live band.What is your defenition of a good live band? Seriously this is what I do and when I see general statements with absolutly NO leg to stand on then I will call you out on it.They have ALWAYS been a great live band as they rehearse for months getting their show right. Me, being in the live sound industry has allowed me to see many acts many times and the Stones are always a great show.......how many bands have you seen live Craig? Just wondering cause for the sake of arguement I have seen Thousands of live shows and mixed thousands of shows.I am by no means a music expert but I know a considerable amount about it as this is my life you see.I am writing this on a tour bus just FYI........
 
J

jamie2112

Banned
I have been looking to on all the trade sites.Its on a few of the bigger ones.I can't tell if its true or not..... . I hope its not true as he is a backbone drummer(not flashy) and they could go on with someone else but it would take away from the whole vibe of the band..........
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I have been looking to on all the trade sites.Its on a few of the bigger ones.I can't tell if its true or not..... . I hope its not true as he is a backbone drummer(not flashy) and they could go on with someone else but it would take away from the whole vibe of the band..........
The link I read had a quote from Keef, about the time Bill Wyman left and they had Charlie pick the replacement. Keef said they would never be the same band if Charlie left.

His big band is pretty good, too.
 
CraigV

CraigV

Audioholic General
Ok I am calling foul here.The Stones are not my favorite band out there,but I have worked as local crew on a bunch of their shows since the 80's and they are a GREAT live band.What is your defenition of a good live band? Seriously this is what I do and when I see general statements with absolutly NO leg to stand on then I will call you out on it.They have ALWAYS been a great live band as they rehearse for months getting their show right. Me, being in the live sound industry has allowed me to see many acts many times and the Stones are always a great show.......how many bands have you seen live Craig? Just wondering cause for the sake of arguement I have seen Thousands of live shows and mixed thousands of shows.I am by no means a music expert but I know a considerable amount about it as this is my life you see.I am writing this on a tour bus just FYI........
Jamie,

I think it’s safe to say that your perspective is unique among the members here. I would not argue that The Stones put on a good spectacle of a show, and no doubt a lot effort goes into staging one of their shows. However, the overall sound is lacking, and Mick sounds terrible as he’s prancing around the stage & trying to sing at the same time. I can understand why someone like Janet Jackson lip-syncs in concert – she’s very physically active, and it would be near impossible to hold a tune & dance the way she does. I doubt the fans at a Stones concert would be so forgiving if Mick were to do the same.
As you pointed out yourself, Charlie is a lot like Ringo – not the greatest drummer ever, he simply found himself playing in a very good band.

Some 10 years ago, my wife won tickets to see The Cranberries at a local venue. As it turns out, it was a very small club, and I was about 3 meters from the stage. At one point, their sound man decided to see how loud he could push the volume, which resulted in everyone in the audience slamming their hands over their ears & ducking, as though someone had opened fire with an automatic gun overhead. The event left me with a slight ringing in my ears which I will have for the rest of my life. I have not been to a show since. Before that, the best show I had attended was The Fine Young Cannibals back in the ‘80’s. Avery simple stage with 4 platforms which the musicians & singers changed positions on, and a venue that seated about 2,000 people with open sides. Guitar, bass, drums, brass, piano…the sound was great. The best live show I have seen (but was not in attendance) was The Gorillaz live at The Manchester in England doing their Demon Days album. The combination of musicians (including a mini orchestra), back-up singers, guest vocalists & singers, the visuals…fantastic.
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
The stones did a benefit concert here a few years back and althought they were the headliner, ACDC blew them away! They IMO just seem old and tired compared to the thunder from down under...;).
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
Getting old does indeed suck.

The best performer I have seen live is Prince. I've seen him probably 5 or 6 times. He always puts on a great show and has great musicians with him.

Funny enough, I would say that the best show I ever saw as far as music quality was The Cure. I saw them back on the Disintegration tour in LA and they sounded just like the album.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Jamie,

I think it’s safe to say that your perspective is unique among the members here. I would not argue that The Stones put on a good spectacle of a show, and no doubt a lot effort goes into staging one of their shows. However, the overall sound is lacking, and Mick sounds terrible as he’s prancing around the stage & trying to sing at the same time. I can understand why someone like Janet Jackson lip-syncs in concert – she’s very physically active, and it would be near impossible to hold a tune & dance the way she does. I doubt the fans at a Stones concert would be so forgiving if Mick were to do the same.
As you pointed out yourself, Charlie is a lot like Ringo – not the greatest drummer ever, he simply found himself playing in a very good band.

Some 10 years ago, my wife won tickets to see The Cranberries at a local venue. As it turns out, it was a very small club, and I was about 3 meters from the stage. At one point, their sound man decided to see how loud he could push the volume, which resulted in everyone in the audience slamming their hands over their ears & ducking, as though someone had opened fire with an automatic gun overhead. The event left me with a slight ringing in my ears which I will have for the rest of my life. I have not been to a show since.
That's what ear plugs are for. As much as I love a loud show, I love my hearing more. They are typically loud enough that you can still hear everything fine with them IN :eek: I never go to a show without them, though I may or may not use them depending on how it sounds and where I am. Small, enclosed venues pretty much require them, but big outdoor gigs may not. Depends on the band.

Funny enough, I would say that the best show I ever saw as far as music quality was The Cure. I saw them back on the Disintegration tour in LA and they sounded just like the album.
I don't want it to sound just like the album. I want it to have some "live" character to it. At least change it up a bit. The biggest impressions bands have made on me are when they totally throw in other stuff, change the song around, mix another song into the middle of the one they're playing or something unique that you may never hear again comes out. THAT is why I go to shows :)

At the Porcupine Tree show at the Fillmore one of the guy's amps died so Steve Wilson did an impromptu unplugged set while they swapped it out. That was soooo cool, and only the people who were there that night got to experience it.


Officially, The Stones are denying it as well.
 
F

fox

Audioholic
Doing the same job since 1963. That is commendable for anyone. I wish Charlie Watts well. He is deserving of living the good life after so many years of making music with what some will argue is the worlds greatest RNR band.
 
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