C

chaos24

Audioholic Intern
does anybody have anything good to say about these legends.......im trying to get a hold of a pair of vs 120's. best pair of speakers i have ever had. my polks are great but to me they dont have the whole package . maybe im still trying to relive my youth
 
M

markw

Audioholic Overlord
Don't worry about what others think.

If you like 'em, then that's all that matters. Good luck in your search. May thee audiogods smile upon you and, one day you'll be driving along and spot a pair for $10 at a garage sale.

chaos24 said:
maybe im still trying to relive my youth
dunno about the CV, but I can coitenly go along with that.

I recently picked up a pair of JBL L-26's that I couldn't afford when they were new in '73 or so. Hooked up to my old Marantz 2270 and I'm back in my glory days.

now, where's that lava lamp? :rolleyes:
 
ziggster

ziggster

Enthusiast
that's funny that you mention vs-120's because my roommate just got his pair back from his brother and stuck them in my livingroom... i was trying to understand why they have a fuse in them. I've never seen fuses in a non-powered speaker before...:confused:
 
Z

zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
I have a pair of D7"s. One woofer needs to be repaired. I don't have a digital camera, but I will get some pics up soon. IMO, the D-series were the best Cerwin Vega ever made. They had the killer horn tweeters.
 
N

Nuglets

Full Audioholic
ziggster said:
that's funny that you mention vs-120's because my roommate just got his pair back from his brother and stuck them in my livingroom... i was trying to understand why they have a fuse in them. I've never seen fuses in a non-powered speaker before...:confused:
The fuse is to protect the tweeter somehow. I'm guessing it limits the amount of current that can go to the tweeter so you don't fry it. Not really sure exactly how it works but I do know with 100% certainty that it is for the tweeter only.
 
Z

zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
Nuglets said:
The fuse is to protect the tweeter somehow. I'm guessing it limits the amount of current that can go to the tweeter so you don't fry it. Not really sure exactly how it works but I do know with 100% certainty that it is for the tweeter only.
Actually, the fuse is to protect the entire speaker. There is self re-setting overload circuit for the tweeter.

I know this because I have owned RE 30's, and still own D7's. My D7's tweeter protection has to be manually re-set. I have been through some fuses, and it shuts the whole speaker down. If it were for the "tweeter only", then when you removed the fuse, the tweeter would be the only thing not working.;)
 
M

markw

Audioholic Overlord
Back in "the day",

Nuglets said:
The fuse is to protect the tweeter somehow. I'm guessing it limits the amount of current that can go to the tweeter so you don't fry it. Not really sure exactly how it works but I do know with 100% certainty that it is for the tweeter only.
10, 12 and 20 band graphic equalizers were all the rage. Everty Tom, **** and Harry with a stereo and a tape loop (and they ALL had 'em then) would plug one of these in. And, the first thing they would do is configure it in the traditipnsl smily-face configuration, where the extremes were boosted.

Now, we know that for each barely audiable 3 db boost in percieved loudness it takes roughly a doubling of power. So, in that light, if you boost a band by, say, the ten DB max, to double the output at those frequencies, you're asking for 10x the power of the mid-bands.

That's more than enough to drive many amps into serious clipping, which can result in nasty things happing to those tiny, defenseless speakers. woofers are fairly rugged and can take a lickin' and keep on ticking, but tweeters are a bit more delicate. A fuse is a good thing to have, particularly if they know their customer base.

In the early 80's I saw many, many auto speakers come in with blown tweeters. Virtually all had eq's and booster amps and these weenies would cry "but the speakers are rated for 100 watts and my amp only puts out 20!". There was no way they could (or would) understand why boosting those exrtermes into clipping could do such damage.

A fuse on a tweeter is a good thing to have...
 
ziggster

ziggster

Enthusiast
that makes sense. is CV the only ones to do this or is it just a feature that died out during the late 80's-early90's?
 
C

chaos24

Audioholic Intern
Im Pretty Sure That The New Cv's Still Use The Same Fuse Protection. My Vs 120's Couldn't Be Hurt. I Gave Them Everything I Could And Poof The Fuse Blows....get A New Fuse And Your Jammin Again
 
N

Nuglets

Full Audioholic
zumbo said:
Actually, the fuse is to protect the entire speaker. There is self re-setting overload circuit for the tweeter.

I know this because I have owned RE 30's, and still own D7's. My D7's tweeter protection has to be manually re-set. I have been through some fuses, and it shuts the whole speaker down. If it were for the "tweeter only", then when you removed the fuse, the tweeter would be the only thing not working.;)
You could be right, I've never owned those models. On my E-315's the fuse is only for the tweeter.

EDIT: I'm wrong...I misread the specs. The tweeter protection is self-resetting and it looks as if the fuse is for the whole speaker. I've never had the fuse blow in the two years I pounded the hell out of those speaker's with an EQ to boost the lows and my Peavey amp so they seem to be pretty reliable even without the protection. But then again I did refrain from letting my Red LED's blink...for the most part. :) Damn good budget speaker's in my opinion, especially if you like to shake your house and have parties.
 
Last edited:
B

billnchristy

Senior Audioholic
What is the amp rating on the fuse? Seems odd as you could concievably put just about any amp to them.

Music is AC voltage more or less
 
Rowdy S13

Rowdy S13

Audioholic Chief
I hate to even say it but Im using a Model 211 as a base for my TV stand. :( My dad had them since new and replaced them with a set of SE sometings in the 90's Ever since his old ones have been totured by me.

Sean
 
A

ARRAY

Audioholic Intern
The D9 might sound good modified. It uses an MTM configuration for it's mid-tweeter arrangement, something which makes a lot of sense. That cabinet needs some serious internal bracing however. I also don't like the rear firing ports.
 
toquemon

toquemon

Full Audioholic
I still have a pair of CV 280 SE and I love to hear Iron Maiden trough theese babes... Mi dad bought them like 15 years ago and they've never been repaired...

Now, i have three CV powered subs and i love them... I love the sound of paper cone for bass!!!
 
J

Jayballs

Banned
chaos24 said:
does anybody have anything good to say about these legends.......im trying to get a hold of a pair of vs 120's.
Hey Chaos24,

I just recently purchase a pair of MA RS6's to replace my VS 120's. If you are in the Seattle area and are interested let me know. Speakers are in a black cabinet and look brand new.

-Jason
 
C

chaos24

Audioholic Intern
i wish...where both on opposite ends of the country. a black set is what im looking for too. all i seem to see for sale are the walnut color and their just plain ugly. that really sucks
 
newsletter

  • RBHsound.com
  • BlueJeansCable.com
  • SVS Sound Subwoofers
  • Experience the Martin Logan Montis
Top