Ceiling Speakers Placement

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Ikrananka

Audiophyte
I am setting up a small L-Shaped room for my wife and daughter to use as a dance room and intend to install some ceiling speakers to hook up to a Sonos ZP100 unit. My question is how many speakers should I install and where should they be located? I have attached a sketch of the room layout and dimensions below. The floor will be laminate wood and the room should otherwise be devoid of furniture.



Please note that I am not expecting to achieve a stereo effect in the room (due to its odd shape) and as such am considering the use of close-coupled (stereo-input) ceiling speakers.

As they will be moving around the room I assume I should be looking at close-coupled (stereo input) speakers.

Any recommendations on speakers would also be much appreciated.
 
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Dolby CP-200

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Hello and welcome

LOL

Translate this then easy. :p


Two ways of doing this you can either put up plasterboard with timbre and door. Now you have two rooms one with a wider width and yet no problems with sound changing within the crazy L shaped configuration.

There fast quick and so simple! Now it’s a question of your willingness to make this doable and if there is one word I don’t like to hear, and that’s the word impossible.

So use the larger width area, I take it’s it for the home cinema correct?

And if so, matching loudspeakers a good set of matching bookshelf types for that size of volume would be quite sufficient.

Place the bookshelf matching (three-screen) loudspeakers at least 1” above a TV monitor. Build a horizontal platform that extends the front area width of the front and via placing the loudspeakers close to the edge with a downward angle will help focus the sounds directivity.

Do not place the left and right too close to the sidewalls not with a width that is over 10 feet! Mind you’re the room’s width is wider than my front room but only via a few inches.

Next plan the surround loudspeakers out for the room, if you what my personal and honest opinion the in wall ceiling designs are too costly and the results will be poor!

I don’t care what others have to say, you’ll never see this happening in a professional cinema.

So don’t waste good money when the budget is at stake!

Look around and I mean look hard for a good bookshelf type, typically from the same manufacture and stick an array of surrounds down the sidewalls with equal spacing and on the back wall this is where surrounds rightfully belong and that is how you’ll produce flying colours without compromising standards.

As for placing loudspeakers in the ceiling for a flush look, it really only works with height surrounds and only that alone. If you start installing loudspeakers in the ceiling for the on screen sounds you’ll have a disaster on your hands!

Psychoacoustics is the term used to how we perceive sound! You start placing the three-screen in the ceiling it will sound dreadful!

Anyway others will now try and give you there own personal options and opinions on this topic but I have seen this too many times before with this kind of thing, and there is only really one way to do it.:)
 
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Ikrananka

Audiophyte
Hi Dolby CP-200!!

Many thanks for the reply. Unfortunately you seem to have mis-read my post. The room will NOT be used for home cinema - it is to be a home dance room for my wife and daughter and so the speakers are only for music - as such there is no way I am making it smaller by putting up plasterboard partitions, they need the room more than they need the perfect acoustics.

As they will be continually moving around the room I believe that a number of in-ceiling close-coupled (stereo-input) speakers will be the most appropriate (please shout if you think otherwise). So still looking for any help with where to place the speakers.
 
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Dolby CP-200

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Ikrananka

Sorry about that. Ok then the remix version.

Since the sound that they will be hearing will almost have a none-localizable sound while moving to the waltz?

Something like x6 loudspeakers plotted in different parts of the room dimensions!

I’ll copy this image drawing and plot there positions for a ((stereo)) configuration.
 
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Dolby CP-200

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Ikrananka

Ok, place two ((stereo)) loudspeakers in the upper corner, place the other two on the opposite side.

Place the other set of ((stereo))loudspeakers in a diagonal configuration, and the last two reaming loudspeakers near to the corners.

With carefully balanced settings of the sound via separate and affordable low wattage amplifiers one for each stereo set as they will need individual sound balancing this should be doable.
 

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Nestor

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Ikrananka said:
Hi Dolby CP-200!!

Many thanks for the reply. Unfortunately you seem to have mis-read my post. The room will NOT be used for home cinema - it is to be a home dance room for my wife and daughter and so the speakers are only for music - as such there is no way I am making it smaller by putting up plasterboard partitions, they need the room more than they need the perfect acoustics.

As they will be continually moving around the room I believe that a number of in-ceiling close-coupled (stereo-input) speakers will be the most appropriate (please shout if you think otherwise). So still looking for any help with where to place the speakers.
I think in-ceiling, close coupled speakers should be fine. The room isn't big. I'd think 4 speakers should also work. The fewer the speakers, the heavier the wallet will be at the end of the day.

I have a 2000sq ft aerobics studio and 4 yorkville pa speakers, and my members are happy.

What kind of ceiling will it be? If it's a drop ceiling, starting off with four speakers and adding more if desired will be easy.
 
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Ikrananka

Audiophyte
Nestor said:
I think in-ceiling, close coupled speakers should be fine. The room isn't big. I'd think 4 speakers should also work. The fewer the speakers, the heavier the wallet will be at the end of the day.

I have a 2000sq ft aerobics studio and 4 yorkville pa speakers, and my members are happy.

What kind of ceiling will it be? If it's a drop ceiling, starting off with four speakers and adding more if desired will be easy.
Thanks Nestor. You are right - the room is small - as such I believe that the six speaker suggestion by Dolby CP-200 seems very much overkill.

I was thinking of three ceiling speakers with a future possible sub-woofer.

The ceiling is already finished and is conventional drywall covered with stipple. So I have to cut holes for the speakers - so keen on getting the number and location right from the start. Based on the size and power output of each speaker I think more than three would be too much.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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Ikrananka said:
I was thinking of three ceiling speakers with a future possible sub-woofer.

The ceiling is already finished and is conventional drywall covered with stipple. So I have to cut holes for the speakers - so keen on getting the number and location right from the start. Based on the size and power output of each speaker I think more than three would be too much.

Since this music is for dancing enjoyment, not serious audio listening or entertaining, I would certainly think that even 3 speakers will be enough. A sub could be placed near the music player on the floor, but you would not really need it.
I would place on speaker centered in that 3.3m space and the two in the long and narrower space on the long axis.
 

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