can we get 1080P regardless of input source

[mathman]

hi,

if the projector is 1080P (either JVC or epson), receive will be one of the new denons is there anyway to ensure the projector is always showing a 1080P picture regardless of the input source. in otherwords, is there some form of tech that will take a standard DVD, cable TV, or VHS, etc and up-convert to 1080P?

also, i've read the reviews of the JVC RS1 and the Epson powerlight home cinema but wondered if anyone has looked at these side by side and can say why we should pay 2X the epson price for the JVC? does the JVC off that much better of a picture?

thank you!

 

[BMXTRIX]

1. Every projector has built in video processing which will convert any incoming resolution to the native resolution of the projector. In this case, 1080p.

2. So what? What does it matter if you take a crap image like analog cable, or VHS and convert it to 1080p? You can't actually make it look like true 1080p, it's just a little bit better version of crap. ie: If you take a crap nugget, paint it gold, it doesn't become a gold nugget. It's just a gold colored piece of crap. Sorry for that analogy.

3. You should focus on getting a decent DVD player with upconversion (re: more than $100) or better yet, pick up a Blu-ray player which will offer about 90% of new releases in HD to begin with, most often at 1080p resolution. Combine that with HD cable or satellite and you will find that the image you get looks really good almost all of the time.

4. Accept the fact that anything less than HD resolution, including DVD, will not look as good. It won't, you can't fix it, so live with it.

...As for the second question.

LCD has had some longevity issues and the Epson has some issues that have been noted by people in general. It is a good projector for the money, but the JVC is considered a fair bit better. I have not seen either, but I have seen the BenQ W10000 which is a 1080p DLP projector and I was absolutely floored by that model which delivers excellent black levels and top shelf processing. When I upgrade my front projection setup it very well could be to DLP above all others.

 

[mathman]

thank you for the input.

I guess i was thinking that i could buy a DVDO (??) that would take every signal and convert it to 1080P.........

 

[longodj]

You could get a DVDO...that would just be like using top quality gold paint for your crap nugget?

I would say if you're talking about using a DVDO to deinterlace the 1080i from say a Toshiba HD-A2 then maybe. Or use a DVDO to bypass the projectors processing just to have more control over it and most likely better processing, sure. But if not I second BMXTRIX on the high def inputs.

 

[InTheIndustry]

Without Seeing Your Room.....

I have done side by side comparisons of the JVC RS1 & the Epson Powerlight Pro. I'm an A/V integrator and wanted to see the difference. I really liked both products but ended up going with Epson for an under $10K projector line (I'm a former Vidikron dealer and have become underwhelmed with what they are now offering).

Epson $4K VS. JVC $6.3K: From a "value" stand point, the Epson is brighter, carries a 3 year warranty, comes with an extra bulb, comes with a mount, and retails for $2,300 under the JVC. Tough to beat. The Epson picture in comparison to the JVC is a little softer. I did not notice any type of screen-door effect on the Epson. As far as color goes, in a totally dark room the JVC looked great and a little better than the Epson, but not by much. Up the dimmer switch on the lights and the Epson picture was stronger (still not going to do well in a fully lit environment). The JVC really really needs a light controlled room for it to WOW you. I have read in various forums where some people have complained as to what analogue sources look like on the JVC. I did not notice anything out of the ordinary when I was viewing it. Historically, DILA white uniformity is an issue in test patterns but that's not typically applicable to regular viewing.

Both of these projectors provided a really good picture for the price point (< $10K). I think that if someone either had never owned a projector before, had to have 1080P, and/or had a legacy piece they wanted to upgrade either one would blow them away. So, to answer your question (and mine since I wanted to know which to recommend to my clients): In my eyes, the Epson is the better value without doubt.

As far as DLP goes: I think that accross the board under $8K-$10K LCD & DILA offer better value. Just personal experience. The only under $10K DLP projecter I've ever really fell in love with was a Projection Design Action! Model Two ($6,500 msrp). On paper, it makes you yawn. On the screen, WoW!

Note: The Epson will absolutely NOT do well on a perf screen. I tried both projectors on a plain white screen & on a white perf screen. The JVC did well but the Epson was unbearable.

Note2: I have never heard of or read about LCD longevity or unusual durability issues with Epson projectors. But, since I strongly believe in the fact that "I don't know what I don't know", could someone please link an artical or website documenting these issues. This information would be extremely valuable to me. Epson makes nearly all of the LCD panels found in projectors and televisions and it would be interesting to read about any re-occuring problems with LCD technology based products and Epson pannels.

Thanks!