Can I connect these 5.1 speakers to my Denon X3400H

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DamienS

Junior Audioholic
Dear forum.

Can someone please advise me if I could connect these speakers to my Denon X3400H? LINK

(BTW, the specifications of the speakers is on page 72 & 73 of the link).

It would be a temporary thing to experiment while keeping the existing speakers in place (wires concealed). Just want to make sure I won't ruin the speakers or my AVR.

Thank you for any input!
 
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DamienS

Junior Audioholic
Another question in this regards - The actual subwoofer has 'regular' speaker terminals, whereas the terminals on the receiver that are labeled subwoofer has what I believe is a digital coax cable connection for the subwoofer(s).
Any suggestions how I should connect this subwoofer? Can I connect them to one of the 'Surround Back's and then assign them as subwoofer in the AVR configuration?
 

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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Didnt look at the link but appears to be a passive sub which your avr isn't intended for. Is it a home theater in a box type speaker set? Impedance of the speakers can be an issue with those as well.
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
lovinthehd is correct.. and my apologies. I did not look closely enough ; looking only at the wattage/resistance on the main speakers. I should have taken a closer look at the entire setup.

You *can* connect the speakers (other than the sub), but I would not suggest that your would get good results from it. You will not have success with the sub as (as lovinthehd pointed out) it's passive and there's no amplified channel on your AVR for that.

If at all possible; I would recommend replacing the speakers. I don't believe you will get results you will enjoy out of the setup you are contemplating.

"whereas the terminals on the receiver that are labeled subwoofer has what I believe is a digital coax cable connection for the subwoofer(s). "

There's nothing digital about them. They are analog coax "pre-out" ports... though the literal cable is the same regardless.
 
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DamienS

Junior Audioholic
Thank you very much lovinthehd & JerryLove for your further clarifications!

I have hooked up the speakers other than the subwoofer and it is better than the original, though I'm sure would be much better with better speakers.

As lovinthehd suspected the speakers are from an older 'Home theatre in a box' set up. Since it was older and didn't have HDMI connections the configuration was previously the the cable box, blu ray, etc. all went to the TV via HDMI and then an optical cable from the TV to the old audio receiver that came with these older speakers. Due to this limitation, surround sound wasn't working properly. This set up is actually not mine, rather it is my father's. I wanted to hook with with my Denon to see if I could get surround sound working 'properly' and to see what difference it would make, etc.

I'm going to borrow a powered sub tomorrow just to give him a better feel what it would be like.

Thank you both again for your valuable input and thank you also JerryLove for correcting me on the coax not being digital ;).

Best Regards.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
You won't see a huge jump in overall audio quality using a better A/V receiver with cheap speakers like that. While you may get proper surround sound, it is obvious that the subwoofer won't work. Hopefully that wire wasn't buried in the wall as it isn't industry standard.

Those speakers can likely be had for 50 bucks or so from accessories4less.com - except the sub.

The biggest difference to a home theater in a box kit is really the speakers. An upgrade in speakers will make a huge difference and is where the majority of any spending money should go. If he's happy with his dinky little speakers, then a small entry level powered subwoofer is the way to go and match it with a inexpensive entry level surround sound receiver from a good manufacturer like Denon or Yamaha.
 
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DamienS

Junior Audioholic
Thank you for your reply BMXTRIX.

The issue that was leading me to experiment with the Denon hooked up to his speakers was because I was not getting 5.1 ‘surround’ audio with the previous configuration. The reason was that the cable box (Sky) and Blu-ray player were connected via HDMI to the Samsung TV, and then using a optical cable from the TV to his original receiver. It seems that some TVs (especially pre 2014s), don’t allow for Dolby to be passed through. This seems to be the case with this TV.

I did borrow a powered subwoofer to see what it would be like with the other speakers and the Denon. It did allow for Dolby 5.1 to be passed through via the Denon (i.e. Sky box and Blu-ray to the Denon and the HDMI ARC to the TV from the Denon). At least it was Dolby 5.1. The previous set up was set to 5 channel stereo, which was basically sending the same signals and level to each of the 5 speakers which didn’t provide for a surround sound effect.

Going through the Denon wasn’t mind blowing or anything but did have different things coming through different speakers. However, when looking to put things back in place it occurred to me to connect the Sky box and Blu-ray to the TV via HDMI but to then connect the Sky box to the original audio receiver via optical (keeping with his original speakers). This actually sounded better than when things were set up through the Denon. I’d imagine this was because the speakers were a better match for the receiver than the Denon (as lovinthehd mentioned the impedance of the speakers wasn’t ideal for the Denon).

With the configuration as it now stands it means that the Sky box is getting better sound but the Blu-ray is only getting sound via the TV, rather than the surround system for now. I have a optical switch on order to try that out shortly so that both the Sky box and Blu-ray can be connected to the audio receiver via optical (as the receiver only has one optical in).

The primarily reason I was going through this initial trial and error, is that my father is in the near future going to be upgrading his TV and it would be nice to be getting better sound from it. Unfortunately the room configuration is a million miles from ideal for good speaker placement. I was to experiment with what he currently has with proper 5.1 settings (rather than the 5 channel stereo it was on), so I might get a feel for how bad the impact from non-ideal speaker placement would be with a 5.1 system in actual 5.1 surround setting (rather than the previous 5 channel stereo setting).

It was a bit hard to tell much from what is there, though I think the incorrect placement of speakers (due to the limitations of the shape of room, etc.) would only be amplified with better speakers. I’m beginning to look at a soundbar (researching passive and active options) with sub and satellite speakers as a possible solution as the locations where the actual TV is located is very limited for locating speakers and aesthetics have to be considered for this room, etc. (living area, etc.). I know this isn’t going to be as good as separates but I think having the soundbar would be better than badly placed separate front speakers.

Thank you all again for you input. I didn’t blow anything up so I’m calling that a success :) .
 
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