Halon451

Halon451

Audioholic Samurai
What irritates me about this is no one has posted something other than gross generalities about bose, which is far from providing evidence as to why they feel that the claim is justified. (I'll grant an exception for the acoustimass system: someone actually backed that statement up with some facts.)
Well, I'm not going to beat up on you - I think the point was clearly made. I just thought I would throw my two cents in with regards to the generalities. In the world of audio obviously you have hard data and then you have subjective opinion, which will ultimately formulate a foundation of "generalities" which may or may not be backed up by hard evidence.

Why do you think it is that Bose is so silent regarding their specifications? It is because they know that any discerning audio enthusiast is going to evaluate that system's performance from a technical standpoint first, listen second, formulate an opinion - third. What they accomplish by ommitting their specifications in just about everything they do, is rely on over-hyped mass-marketing appeal - giving it the gleam and shine of a really high end system, which draws in the bulk of their business - unaware, casual consumers who have the money if not the resources and understanding to know better. Bose understands this is a huge market and they have cashed in on it, penny for penny. Right down to the "demo" rooms where they attempt to fool the average joe who walks in with the fake speaker enclosures suspended over those little cubes. It's a mind-game.

The fact of the matter is, Bose simply does indeed suck. That's not subjective my friend, that is an audio fact. If they had come out as a cheap alternative HTIB system - perhaps one that could be found in your average K-Mart or Wal-mart, then I might give them some credit for offering HT surround sound to the less fortunate of us who may not have a great deal of money to throw at a real system. But what they've done instead is take a POS system, repackaged it as high-end, and are taking advantage of their consumers every single day, all by an army of marketing executives who know how to sugar coat a turd and make people believe it's a brick of gold. :cool:
 
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trnqk7

Full Audioholic
Whether they are the best speakers for the price depends on whether you like them better than others. :) Some people love Bose, some people hate them. Me...I'm not a fan. When I auditioned them at the store versus other brands, there were sounds from movies that I could not hear with the Bose but that were very clearly heard with the other speakers. I recently read an article on Bose frequency response (I'm sure that it was either here or linked from here) that supports my own experience with them.

If they are what you prefer, then get them. You are the one who is going to be using them and paying for them, so always get what you want. Please take Jamie's advice, though, and go listen to a few different brands and models of speakers in your price range. That will give you a much better foundation for making a decision.
Although I am against BOSE, like most here, thank you very much for the single most level-headed response I've seen regarding a thread like this. You sir should be commended.
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
Well, I'm not going to beat up on you - I think the point was clearly made. I just thought I would throw my two cents in with regards to the generalities. In the world of audio obviously you have hard data and then you have subjective opinion, which will ultimately formulate a foundation of "generalities" which may or may not be backed up by hard evidence.

Why do you think it is that Bose is so silent regarding their specifications? It is because they know that any discerning audio enthusiast is going to evaluate that system's performance from a technical standpoint first, listen second, formulate an opinion - third. What they accomplish by ommitting their specifications in just about everything they do, is rely on over-hyped mass-marketing appeal - giving it the gleam and shine of a really high end system, which draws in the bulk of their business - unaware, casual consumers who have the money if not the resources and understanding to know better. Bose understands this is a huge market and they have cashed in on it, penny for penny. Right down to the "demo" rooms where they attempt to fool the average joe who walks in with the fake speaker enclosures suspended over those little cubes. It's a mind-game.

The fact of the matter is, Bose simply does indeed suck. That's not subjective my friend, that is an audio fact. If they had come out as a cheap alternative HTIB system - perhaps one that could be found in your average K-Mart or Wal-mart, then I might give them some credit for offering HT surround sound to the less fortunate of us who may not have a great deal of money to throw at a real system. But what they've done instead is take a POS system, repackaged it as high-end, and are taking advantage of their consumers every single day, all by an army of marketing executives who know how to sugar coat a turd and make people believe it's a brick of gold. :cool:
Very nicely said. Words of wisdom to live by. :D
 
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caupina

Full Audioholic
Although I am against BOSE, like most here, thank you very much for the single most level-headed response I've seen regarding a thread like this. You sir should be commended.
+1....you have to make up your own mind....go out and listen to as many speakers as you can...whatever you choose, you won't regret it, it's your choice and money:cool:
 
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chadnliz

Senior Audioholic
If folks like Bose, god bless but there are better options. In this and other (infact all other) audio forums Bose is like a buzz word and a simple minded joke that everyone has success with, its an easy target that takes little intelligence to get a laugh to the point where its sorta sad folks waste so much time on it. This same attitude is now also focused on Monster, Sony, along with cables and gear most cant afford,,,tho the latter is born of jealous envy or a lack of ability to actually hear an overall small but substantial performance. Picking on Bose is like making fun of a retarted person, some will laugh but there is no real sport in it.
 
MinusTheBear

MinusTheBear

Audioholic Ninja
I would not consider the original post to be "bait". It seems legitimate.
 
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