BookShelf

[wikket72]

What is a good bookshelf speaker? best bang for the bucks.
room size 13 x 13

 

[20to20K]

My vote?

Quad 12L. (~$400/pair)

 

[shokhead]

What is a good bookshelf speaker? best bang for the bucks.
room size 13 x 13

100's to look at and with so little info,no way to help. Have you listen to anything at the local A/V store?

 

[wikket72]

shokhead,
Well, I haven't listen to anything yet.
I am currently listening to my cambridge soundworks satellite.
I just got a Citation 5.0 preamp and Lexicon lx 5 amp from my uncle for free . I know it's old, but it will do for now.
Current setup:
BIC center DV-62SI currently on order.
10" JBL power sub old model,
And the piece of sh_t satellite Cambridge for front and back. (looking for new main front)

I was insearch for floor stand but decided to go with bookshelf since it’s only my bedroom.
I am a beginner at this stuff; there are too many different speakers out there.
That’s why I’m here to get some help from the experience.
Any help will do,

 

[markw]

Define "buck"

Bill Gates has a different standard than I do. How many "bucks" are you talking about?

Also, is "Bookshelf" a description of their relative size or where you want to mount them? Difference in port locations, if any.

 

[Shadow_Ferret]

BIC center DV-62SI currently on order.

If you've already bought the BIC center, then you need to get whatever fronts BIC makes to timber match that center. Seems to me you sort of committed yourself to the choice of fronts when you ordered that center.

 

[wikket72]

Bic

Is that a good center and front, i'm not sure. I just read the reviews around here.
oh yeah my bidget is around 400 for fronts

 

[Tex-amp]

I agree that you should timbre match the BIC you already own.

 

[anamorphic96]

I would send the BIC back unless youre not getting the matching left and right. Timbre matching is an important part of creating a seamless soundstage for home theatre. The center you bought is good. But its more about matching the 3 front speakers. The surrounds and sub can match if you like but are not as important as the front three speakers matching.

 

[zumbo]

Is that a good center and front, i'm not sure. I just read the reviews around here.
oh yeah my bidget is around 400 for fronts

I didn't know audioholics had reviewed BIC?
Looks as though you may have read a members review?

If you can, I would send it back.

Audioholics did review Mordaunt Short Avant 902 bookshelf ($400pr), and Avant 905c ($300ea). There is an RLA banner running at the top of the Audioholics home page. They now carry the full line. Just click on the Audioholics logo at the top left of this page.

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Wait until you hear that center channel. I have an old pair of the bookshelf DV62's and they sound amazing. I bought them in the early 90's. You will have a hard time getting another brand of speaker to sound as good at the Venturi's. Clint or Gene needs to get one of these centers asap to review. Please let us know what you think when it arrives. You may be buying four more of them for a perfectly timber matched system.

www.epinions.com/pr-Speakers_BIC_America_Venturi_DV62CLR_S_Center_Channel_Speaker_DV_62CLRS/display_~reviews

www.audioreview.com/PRD_119153_2743crx.aspx#reviews

 

[zumbo]

First off, let me say I have not heard this speaker.

But lets think about something for a minute. How is someone who BUYS an inexpensive center speaker for personal use qualified to give a review. If this is their current center, certainly it is the most expensive they have purchased. Therefore, you have to conclude that their opinion is based on a Bose cube center!

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Zumbo,

I am surprised you haven't heard of BIC before. Here's a little history on them. These are not KLH or Bose immitations. I own a pair of bookshelves and have quite a collection of audio equipment to compare them to. I wouldn't recommend them if they weren't solid. Surely you've heard of Luxman and Wharfedale. I'd align them with the likes of what Athena is to Paradigm, except the BIC center channel is known around many other audio forums and A/V magazines as one of the best centers you can buy at any price. I guess it just hasn't hit a high note here yet. Their center channel even has a cult-like following where one guy revamps the crossover to make it even sound better than it already is.

BIC originally an abbreviation for British Industry Corporation, was established as an American corporation specializing in British products. BIC was among the earliest pioneers in the audio industry, distributing products including Garrard turntables, Luxman amplifiers and Wharfedale loudspeakers during the 1960's.
In 1973, BIC introduced its own brand of loudspeakers and the industry' first belt drive turntables. By the mid 1970's, BIC Venturi loudspeakers were among the top 5 best-selling brands. Eventually, the original corporation began diversifying outside of audio and shortly after the death of its founder, the company was sold.
It wasn't until BIC was again purchased in 1988, that the company has emerged as the clear choice for those seeking very high performance audio at affordable prices. BIC products were top-rated 4 times in 1999 alone in comparison with all of the top ten best selling loudspeaker brands! We encourage you to purchase your favorite testing publication (or check with your local library on past issues), to see for yourself how BIC products rank. Better yet, why not make the comparison for yourself at one of the approximately 500 retail stores which carry BIC America products.
BIC products are all designed and engineered in America with production both in the US and abroad. Careful quality control enables BIC America to offer some of the longest warranties in the industry, ranging from 2 to as many as 7 years, depending on model.

 

[zumbo]

I have heard of them. I have not heard them. I did not say they were like Bose. I said the owner who purchased the speaker and gave the review may have owned a Bose cube center previously.

I do know this, RLA sells both BIC & Mordaunt Short. Call them and ask which one is better. Better yet, pm RLA and ask for yourself. He may say the BIC is better. Who knows?

I only know I have not seen a review of them on here, other than members. That was the point I was trying to make.

RLA

 

[markw]

In any case...

... if one wants a proper home theatre system, the three front speakers should match. i.e., the R/L should be of the same make/line as the center and vice versa.

I think this was brought up initialy but somehow got lost in the duration.

 

[krzywica]

Bic gets my vote

I would go with some combination of a bic trio, sure they may look like klh knockoffs they are the farthest thing from it!

I have never owned any bic products but I have numerous friends that do and have heard how the bic's can really sing for the price.

I almost went with them, but decided to go with Athena after extensive auditioning.

In your case the center is already on the way so I would build your setup around that.

 

[wikket72]

Bic

Thanks all,
Maybe i'll look up Athena, I can always send the center back.

 

[Takeereasy]

This post is only to make a suggestion if you do send the speakers back. I can not comment on the quality of Bic speakers (doesn't Bic only make pens? ) because I have never heard them myself. I don't think you'd be doing yourself a disservice by auditionintg the speaker at home before you decide on your final action though.

That said, I feel like a PSB pimp for how often I've mentioned this set up lately. I would suggest you get the PSB Image 2BS. Psb has discontinued this model and it can be had for a song. For example it is $239.00 a pair at soundcity.com , and they are an authorized dealer. You can pick up 2 pairs and barely be over your budget for one. These used to retail for $400 a pair minimum. Mate them to an Image 9C from the same place for $269 or an 8C for $179 and you've got the whole HT covered (sans subwoofer), and quite well I might add. Just look up some of the pro reviews on these speakers.

 

[RLA]

Hi All
Thought I would offer my .02 cents as mentioned previously the
The BIC DV-62 would be the bookshelf match for the DV-62CLRS
Or you can use 2 additional DV-62CLRS for the R/L/C for 3 identical speakers in the front The BIC line is a pretty good bang for the buck value orientated speaker line The MS is in a different class They are built better and I would
Categorize the sonic difference's as more refined, deeper soundstage, less simbilant, less forward in their presentation very balanced This really is not a fair comparison but what you would probably note if you heard them side by side.

Of course the price differences are substantial and you must weigh the cost vs. performance ratio for yourself. For a very value orientated system the
BIC's are a very good bargain I sell them and install them with lower end Yamaha and Denon receivers and I have had very few complaints.

The MS line is a speaker line that you build a high performance HT system around If you are planning on making this a secondary hobby or you think you are really going to get into Home Theater (most do) then my advice is to purchase quality products one piece at a time if necessary as your budget allows The Lower end speakers have no real resale value once they have been used so upgrading to a new system would be more costly in the long run

Hope This helps
RLA