I'm getting ready to renovate the kitchen for my wife and i'm putting a couple in ceiling speakers (probably JBL or Infinity because my wife sucked us into the direct buy cult a few years ago and i can get them cheap). my upstairs living room is separated from the kitchen by a wall (which cannot come down - centre load bearing wall with all plumbing running through it). i was thinking about putting a pair of Aperion 532's and an 8 or 10" sub in the family room for music and TV. i have a paradigm/denon HT in the basement. i cannot run rear surrounds because they would have to be wall mounted and there isn't a good way to fish cable (it can be done but not without more effort and mess than i care to take). but due to the pending consruction/destruction of the kitchen i will have access to fish wires through roof joists. Enough preamble; my question is: for music and tv would you rather 2 bookshelfs and a sub or 4 in-ceiling and a sub?