best speakers at these price ranges - opinion please

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zing010

Audiophyte
For those of you who have auditioned very high end speakers and heard others, what is your opinion for the best speakers (pair) in these price ranges (give or take a bit):

$0 - $2000:
$2000 - $5000:
$5000 - $15000:
$15,000 +:


And what is your opinon on the whole law of diminishing returns assuming you're not worth $20M or more where money isn't much of an object for audio gear. Does the $20,000 pair of speakers actually sound like a live band where a $5,000 pair sounds like a clock radio...or are they too close musically for most people to tell the difference, especially if they're going in to a room that isn't acoustically perfect or at least very well treated.
 
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cornelius

Full Audioholic
zing010 said:
Does the $20,000 pair of speakers actually sound like a live band where a $5,000 pair sounds like a clock radio...or are they too close musically for most people to tell the difference, especially if they're going in to a room that isn't acoustically perfect or at least very well treated.
A stereo system sounding like a live band is an illusion created by audio components sitting in your home. Recently I heard a flea-powered tube amp and a pair of $2K monitors that sounded more like music, than the mega-watt solid state system with very expensive $14K floorstanders (from the same company) in that same room. Most of the $20k-ish speakers that I've heard were so ruthlessly revealing, that all I ever heard were recording/mixing/mastering flaws. So, for the sound of a live band in your listening room you don't necessarily need $20K speakers.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
cornelius said:
A stereo system sounding like a live band is an illusion created by audio components sitting in your home. Recently I heard a flea-powered tube amp and a pair of $2K monitors that sounded more like music, than the mega-watt solid state system with very expensive $14K floorstanders (from the same company) in that same room. Most of the $20k-ish speakers that I've heard were so ruthlessly revealing, that all I ever heard were recording/mixing/mastering flaws. So, for the sound of a live band in your listening room you don't necessarily need $20K speakers.

Excellent advice and report, Cornelius.

And OP, I've said this in a few other posts and am gonna keep saying it until someone explains differently....money spent on speakers is absolutely irrelevant. There is no 'up' in speaker performance. At all of those price points (taken together), it's all lateral choice, and all that matters is whether or not YOU like the sound. Speaker improvements, at best, are incremental, bearing no linear relationship to cost. (An exception to this rule might be poorly designed speakers that have poor off-axis response, for example, that would be improved by a more expensive design. Another would be a speaker's ability to handle very high spl levels without distortion. But again, these are small 'improvements' ... you may actually LIKE distortion in your speakers.) There isn't a system made that will duplicate "live", for reasons stated by Corneilus. And who cares? I've heard some live performances, like Joan Baez in a cafeteria that sucked. (Poor example, I know. But generalize the example and you have my point.)

IMHO, hearing is so significantly subjective as to render speaker preference relatively immune from price differences. (Aesthetics are a different matter, however.)
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
Another thing to add to the above posts(which BTW are excellent ;)) is that maybe your speakers are not the culprit. Heck, maybe your gear isn't the culprit!

For example,

I have a bare concrete floor in my HT room. I have plaster covered drywall and tons of stupid doo-dads that vibrate. The last thing I am going to blame poor sound on is my equipment. My subwoofer vibrates things in my room making it look like it can't hit certain notes. My speakers treble response is being boosted due to the concrete floor, making them seem brighter then they are. And did my mention my room is UGLY?! :D

Theres more to this hobby then just buying more expensive gear and thinking, "Should I spend more" or "What catagory does this fall under".

What you need to do is take some time and really experiment with your system, settings, and environment. This is a hobby, have fun with it! :)

SheepStar
 
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