Best place to adjust volume

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alphawave

Audioholic Intern
If running my PC into an amp - is it better to do the volume adjustment on the PC or the amp (and why)? I've always wondered about this.
 
rojo

rojo

Audioholic Samurai
I think the PC. I consider the volume knob on an amp to be a gain control, telling the amp to expect however much signal input voltage. Turn the PC up full volume, then turn the amp up until just barely below audible clipping / dynamic compression. Then turn the PC volume back down to a comfortable level. Thereafter, if you occasionally want to crank up the volume, you are still below overdriving your system, even with the PC volume at 100%.

There's no foul either way though. Just go with whatever sounds good to you. If you turn the PC volume up to 100% then control the volume with the amp gain, who's to fault you if it sounds good? Turning a knob is certainly more convenient than clicking a virtual slider.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
I think the PC. I consider the volume knob on an amp to be a gain control, telling the amp to expect however much signal input voltage. Turn the PC up full volume, then turn the amp up until just barely below audible clipping / dynamic compression. Then turn the PC volume back down to a comfortable level. Thereafter, if you occasionally want to crank up the volume, you are still below overdriving your system, even with the PC volume at 100%.

There's no foul either way though. Just go with whatever sounds good to you. If you turn the PC volume up to 100% then control the volume with the amp gain, who's to fault you if it sounds good? Turning a knob is certainly more convenient than clicking a virtual slider.
It may depend on the computer or software you are using. Apparently when you turn down the volume in the digital domain, often it actually loses bits, depends on how it's been implemented. Now, in my experience this hasn't really been audible, but just be aware of possible sound degradation.

rojo: Any volume knob is gain control , so that doesn't really make the gain on the amp any different then the volume knob on the receiver.

Now the suggestion from rojo on how to set it so that it can never be over-driven is certainly a good idea! Especially if you have kids or roomates;)

Personally, I prefer to max out my computer volume, max out the gains on my amps, and control the volume with with a preamp.

But, I have broken that preference for convenience. My advice would be to do what is convenient and compare it to whatever you think might be better, then decide if any improvement is worth the extra hassle.
 
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Muzykant

Audioholic
I am sorry, but doesn't the volume also depend on the material played? Some recordings/movies are just mixed louder than others, and on top of that may have heavier low bass content. I think a loud sine wave at 10 Hz played back at your "safe" volume setting may actually cause some distress/damage to your loudspeakers.
 
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ImcLoud

ImcLoud

Audioholic Ninja
I would just turn it up on what ever is easier, with my PC system I use the amps volume knob because its convenient, I could use the dacs knob or the pc volume and they dont make a difference in sq, just which ever is easier... Although I heard that keeping the dacs at 100% is common practice I don't buy any of that...
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
I would just turn it up on what ever is easier, with my PC system I use the amps volume knob because its convenient, I could use the dacs knob or the pc volume and they dont make a difference in sq, just which ever is easier... Although I heard that keeping the dacs at 100% is common practice I don't buy any of that...
It depends on the DAC!

The XDA-1 has a flaw in the volume control design. If you turn it below 80, it "throws away the bits". Not a good way to implement digital volume!

That was a major driving force for the XDA-2.

Well, I have the XDA-1, and I can't say for sure that I heard the "missing bits", especially at the lower volumes. But, it is there, it is a design flaw, and Emo finally admitted to it and developed the XDA-2 to correct it.

To me, it just means I leave the XDA-1 cranked to max (80), use my volume on my USP-1, and smile about the deal I got due to this "inferior design" on the volume.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
I like to have the source turned up enough so it's noise floor is below that of the lowest audible input signal. From that point on, I'd adjust the overall system volume at the preamp.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
In theory the best place is both. You want to eliminate input clipping and output clipping on both sides of your amp. Giving your input a solid dynamic range and your output one will protect your system from the nastiest forms of audio issues.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
In theory the best place is both. You want to eliminate input clipping and output clipping on both sides of your amp. Giving your input a solid dynamic range and your output one will protect your system from the nastiest forms of audio issues.
That is a valid point, and probably the best approach.

It's not the approach that I use, but it is certainly the safest.
 
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