Best mid range sound bar?

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dmbphan041

Enthusiast
My girlfriend is about to buy a Pioneer 500m and doesnt want to deal with re wiring her whole house for surround sound. That said what's the best soundbar for a mid level price?

thanks!
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Hi. What do you consider a mid-level price? In other words, what is your budget for this?
 
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oppman99

Senior Audioholic
Try to be patient. It may take a little time to get an answer for this question. I'm certain the majority of members here have never used a soundbar. I know I haven't. I have seen very few posts relating to soundbars. Have you tried a forum search? I'm sure someone will help if you give them some time to respond.
 
timoteo

timoteo

Audioholic General
Panarama

I have listened to a hand full of soundbars & my recommendation is the B&W Panarama. Not only is the sound emmense but it is beautiful in apperance which im sure your girl will love. Now take this from someone who owns&love B&W's sound. Their sound is very pleasing to the ears not harsh or overly bright!
Hope you end up finding something that you love!!!
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Why not just do a pair of speakers and a nice little receivers?

You can get 1 button control of stuff and much better sound. You'd be surprised at how good stereo is.
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
Why not just do a pair of speakers and a nice little receivers?

You can get 1 button control of stuff and much better sound. You'd be surprised at how good stereo is.
I agree. This is the way to go!
 
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NicolasKL

Full Audioholic
You can get a Yamaha YSP-4000 for right about a grand, check pricegrabber. That's probably the route I would go. But if she want's something a little cheaper I'd probably look at the lower end Yamaha's or maybe a Denon.

Personally I think your gf would be happier with that than with a receiver and stereo speakers.
 
timoteo

timoteo

Audioholic General
I agree that even though youd prob get better sound with some decent stereo speakers & a reciever...chicks love simplicity when it comes to electronics. My wife though she loves the system ive put got for us, was in opposition practically the whole time i was putting it 2gether.

Soundbar=Simple & clean

Plus with stereo you wont have an actual center channel working for all your dialog. Yes i know stereo can give you good imaging (invisible center) but at your price range it will most likely still sound like 2 speakers.

Go to Ken Cranes to demo the B&W-Panarama. I really think you'll dig it! Its intense!

You'll find something you'll like...you've come to the right place to ask questions. Take everyones input and then let your ears & wallet be the judge.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I agree that even though youd prob get better sound with some decent stereo speakers & a reciever...chicks love simplicity when it comes to electronics. My wife though she loves the system ive put got for us, was in opposition practically the whole time i was putting it 2gether.

Soundbar=Simple & clean

Plus with stereo you wont have an actual center channel working for all your dialog. Yes i know stereo can give you good imaging (invisible center) but at your price range it will most likely still sound like 2 speakers.

Go to Ken Cranes to demo the B&W-Panarama. I really think you'll dig it! Its intense!

You'll find something you'll like...you've come to the right place to ask questions. Take everyones input and then let your ears & wallet be the judge.
i think the cheaper stereo setup would be easier.
 
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abboudc

Audioholic Chief
There is a place for soundbars.

There is no way a receiver and two speakers will be simpler, cleaner, or easier. You need a shelf for the receiver, two speaker wires, power cord, and audio from the tv.

With a soundbar, you have one wire to the soundbar, and one power cord. You can wall mount the soundbar above or below the tv. If his tv is wall mounted, power is already there and both wires are easily hidden.

I'm sure the OP knows that a soundbar is not the epitome of sound quality.
 
timoteo

timoteo

Audioholic General
Even though i'd personally rather have a stereo setup, the question was directed towards a soundbar. Truthfully, they are really easy to setup and some can have an impressive soundstage.
If your girl has an open mind about a reciever with 2-3 speakers then head in that direction. Otherwise there is a bar out there that will satisfy her audio needs. Just dont be TOO "cheap" or else you may be let down.
 
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munroe

Enthusiast
I'm in the middle of looking at the soundbars from Phase Technology as a solution to a small bedroom HT set-up. I had a beautiful Denon DHT-FS3 powered soundbar & sub running the sound from my Oppo BDP-80 Blu-ray player & Satellite box (to the 42" Plasma) and thought the sound was wonderfull for tv/movies.
Then i decided to get a Marantz NR1501 slimline a/v reciever to consolidate all the remotes & upgrade a bit.
Found a good deal on a pair of Phase Technology PC-0.5 small bookshelf speakers & V-Surrounds at the local audio/video store & was totally excited with this companys products.
I couldn't wire the Denon up to the Marantz without going thru a low level to high level converter box so i started looking at the P.T. PC-33.5 as a center channel & possibly a small P.T. 8" sub in the future...
Well, now i think i'll get the P.T. TSB-V3.0 (un-powered) Teatro soundbar with separate inputs for L/C/R & mount it above the TV, with the PC-0.5's as rear surrounds. Hopefully, it will be a perfect set up for my small bedroom as long as the Marantz (50W x 7) can handle the 4ohm loads. I love the Enhanced Voice Tech feature since i have Tinitis in the 3-4K HZ region & need this bump for movie dialogue/voice.

I can't say enough about the Phase Tech line & will probably start replacing all the speakers in my living room with the Premier Collection stuff after most the bills are payed.
 
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tom67

Full Audioholic
This is a copy and paste of a Review on AVS forum. This guy has been banned from several electronics stores for buying items and returning them.


Sony CT-150 vs Vizio VHT210 vs JVC TH-BA1,,,and others,, my at home shoot-out's

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Over the last 2 weeks I have had at home and checked out the Sony CT-150, the Vizio VHT210, the JVC TH-BA1 and the JVC TH-BA3,,,,, and dont tell anybody,, a Bose Cinemate series ll.

I have also owned the Sony's CT-100, CT-500, Yamaha YSP's (almost all of them),,, the Zvox, the Vizio VSB210WS, the Philips and a few others I am forgetting,,,,,, yes, Im a soundbar junkie.

As long as I mentioned the Philips I have the need to say of all the soundbars I have ever owned the Philips was the biggest peice of crap ever made in the history of soundbar making,,,, just had to get that off my chest.

Ok,,, on with the verdict,,, and the winner is over the last 2 weeks of checking out soundbars,,,, drum roll please,,,, the Vizio VHT210 !!!! (sorry Sony lovers)

After the Vizio, the very close runner up would be the JVC TH-BA1.

It is important to say that really none of these bars I have owned sucked,, except for the Philips.
All of these bars have their pros and cons.

If you need the HDMI inputs then look no further than the Sony CT-xxx's, they are great bars and offer many features and put out some really good sound.

What I look for in a soundbar should be said so as to give a better understanding of how I rate what I feel is the better bar.
With soundbar's I am looking for ease of set-up, less wires, ease of use, and the most important thing, good sound and a sense of a surround effect.
I also hate reading manuals and hate clutered remotes and going thur system menu's.

With all that being said,,, here are my thoughts on all the soundbars I mentioned.

Vizio VHT210
Big, wide, room filling sound and a very very good surround effect, sub very good but not as good as the JVC's sub.
Dialog,,,,,, the best of all the bars.
The easiest of all the soundbars to hook-up and use.
Very happy with the remote and the controls offered on the remote.
The Vizio is so small and light you would not think it could not put out the sound that it does,,, but it does.
Its the smallest and the cheapest of all the soundbars,,, and in my opinion the best one,,,, the clear winner for me.

JVC TH-BA1
I also LOVE this soundbar and it was really close between the JVC and the new Vizio,, in another thread here I said I did not think the Vizio would win out over the JVC,,,, but the Vizio did win.
The JVC has more of a 5.1 sound to it and the surround effects are not as pronounced as they are with the Vizio and some might prefure that, the Vizio on the other hand has more of a "your in a sound bubble feel/sound" and the sound is more all around you.
I liked the JVC sub more than the Vizio sub, a bit more cleaner and tighter than the Vizio sub.
Dialog with the JVC,,, great,,, no problems at all,,, but the Vizio is just a tiny bit better with dialog.
The Vizio has a wider soundstage that extends farther out from the bar than the JVC.
The JVC's sound is more centered to the front than the Vizio is,,,and the JVC's surround effects are a bit less than the Vizio,,,, but I think the JVC's surround effects are better than the Sony CT-xxx's.

Sony CT-150 and the other Sony CT-xxx's
While the Sonys are very good I think I have come to the conclusion the only real advantage the Sony have at this point is the HDMI connectivity,,,, as in,, if you dont need the HDMI inputs I think the better choices would be the JVC or the Vizio.
To me the Sonys kind of defeat the reason for a soundbar, the remotes are very clutered,, they do require some tweeking to get the best sound and the menu system kinda sucks.
At one point in time I considered the Sony CT's the king of the hill,, I no longer feel that way.

Yamaha YSP's
What can ya say,,, they still might be the king of all the soundbars,,but they do sometimes need quite a bit of tweeking and they are more dependant on walls to bounce the sound off of,,, they are priced in most case's much higher than all the others and thats without a sub.
The menus are also a pain in the *** to go thru and the remote is almost as cluttered as the Sony CT's.
But still,,, I do love the Yamaha YSP's ,,,, just not my favorite anymore.

Vizio VSB210WS
My past favorite that served me well but my love now goes to the new'er Vizio followed by the JVC TH-BA1.

JVC TH-BA3
I really liked this system alot,,, but with the rear speakers and the power for the rears and the rear reciever I felt like I was dealing with and hooking up a 5.1 system,,,,, but if you want a more of a 5.1 system with discrete channels for the surround's this is the one to get,,,,I really liked the overall sound of the JVC BA3,,,, very nice system, great sound, great remote, and very easy to use.

Bose Cinemate Series ll
Yes, I know, everyone hate's Bose,,, I could care less.
The Cinemate I think is a nice sounding system,, I must admit I do kinda like that Bose sound,,, I owned one a while ago and just for fun tried it out again last week in my apartment/condo.
But given the price for the Bose and the lack of features one would be better off with almost any of these other bars mention,,,, except the Phillips.

Philips sounbar (I forget the model number)
The reason I forgot the model number is I am tring to erase the memory from my mind of ever buying this pile of junk,,, WOW,,, the biggest pile of crap ever made,,,, I would rather listen to my x-girlfriend ***** at me than listen to that Philips.

Zvox
Not that impressed.
To get more dialog you had to boost that level which in turn would diminish the surround effects,,, to get more surround effects you would boost the surround levels and lose the dialog,,, I could not find a happy medium between dialog and the surrounds.

Ok,, did I leave anybody out,,, I think I kinda covered all of them and the important things.

Any questions feel free to post and I will try and answer to the best I can.

Cheers
Davyo
 
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munroe

Enthusiast
I finally decided on the Phase Technology Teatro PC 3.0 - a higher end passive soundbar for my bedroom - getting it tomorrow & plan to do a mini review with pics after i have a chance to play with it.
All the active soundbars i was able to listen to just sounded like toys to me, so my decision was to go with an AVR, real speakers & not look back.
Good luck with your decision - lotsa stuff out there...
 
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Substance-P

Audioholic
I have been down the sound bar road for a year now. We have a home theater 7.2 setup; however, I was informed that simplicity was the name of the game for the family room...in other words, once my wife saw a sound bar she could not be sold on a small 2.1 system.

We went with the passive Polk SurroundBar combined with he PSW-111 sub. Some impressions after a year of daily use: it is not bad.

1) We have the system setup in a corner and the outline of the room didn't allow for the Yamaha style surround bar. The Polk has never really pulled off a feeling of surround sound.
2) Music sounds pretty good and powered by our Marantz receiver it easily provides tunes for the family room and adjacent kitchen.
3) A sub helps out; however, my wife is not too bass friendly so we rarely use the PSW-111 to its full potential-but I would recommend getting a nice small sub to help out.

We are in the midst of a redesign of the family room and are getting a new TV stand. This means that we are going to sell the surround bar and go with a small 2.1/3.1 system. I should be able to compare experiences with both pretty soon.

Good luck.
 
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