best deal for 1k

[redrider]

Okay. I just scored a smoking .deal on a complete Klipsch Synergy System F-2, C-2, S-1's and Sub-10. This came in the original boxes from a guy in the military that said they have mostly been in storage. These speakers look brand new and yes even the Bash amp still works perfect on the sub.Moving on here is my dilemma. Last year I updated my TV to a LG 4K 55" OLED (friggin awesome)but using my Box store Denon entry level receiver to check out my new speakers. So, I know this is mid range stuff which works for me in my habitat. With that being stated. I am sold on the Outlaw 5000 amp. Problem is the pre. 976 that they want approx. 350 more for than their 975 for 4K compliant. I looked at Emotiva 5175 amp and their BASX 7.1 pre. Tryin to keep the power investment at 1K. Although Outlaw does sell a 4K update box(contraption.....?) specific for their 975 but costs 179.00. Need some help here. Maybe I am going in the wrong direction and should be looking at something else. Old school guy that has a rebuilt Marantz 2325 and Cerwin Vega S-2's. Which when it comes to music, so far, smokes my under powered new speakers.

 

[-Jim-]

I'm a past owner of a Marantz 2325 which was best dam stereo receiver I ever had! I wish it never got stolen from our house years ago...

Anyway, here's my two cents, but I think you need to match your "mid range stuff" and save your money for more impactful speakers later on when you can afford to go top end for the whole system. Or better yet save some $$ to get a better Sub as you may find the Sub-10 wanting after the Cerwin Vega S-2s.

Your Klipsch Synergy System F-2 have a sensitivity of 96 dB and therefore won't need gobs of power to drive them to reasonable (and even painful) levels. You said "Last year I updated my TV to a LG 4K 55" OLED (friggin awesome) but using my Box store Denon entry level receiver to check out my new speakers." didn't give much info on what is lacking on the "Box store Denon entry level receiver ".

Please advise what the Denon Model number is. Also advise what source material you want to listen to (BluRay, DVDs, Streaming, Sirius, Cds, etc.) and what percentage is Movies and Music. Can you also advise what input devices (model numbers are helpful for all) and the size (layout?) of the room / primary listening position?

If you are into saving $$ check out this site:

https://www.accessories4less.com/

Lots of folks here have gotten good deals there and are happy campers. Marantz and Denon are now in the same stable.

 

[lovinthehd]

Well personally I don't miss my old Marantz receiver from the 70s It had some issues and certainly lacks the flexibility of the modern avr. Hard to beat the old CVs for just being loud with minimal power (but I also don't miss my CVs from back then either).

A better sub like Jim says could be a good first step (and moving away from Klipsch on the subs would be a good idea too....try SVS, Rythmik, Hsu, etc).

Also keep in mind even if you want a modest power amp like the Outlaw 5000, you don't necessarily need a pre-amp, just an avr with pre-outs (but these no longer come with entry level avrs). Also keep in mind that it takes a doubling of amp power to gain 3dB so the 5000 is really no more powerful than a top line avr (my Denon 3808 and 4520 has about the same power in 5ch); the top line avr will also have pre-outs for external amps, if needed.

 

[KEW]

Which model of Denon do you have?
One advantage of Klipsch is they are very efficient.
It would be good to know exactly which Denon you have, but if you plan to set the speakers to small and use a sub (which is how we would recommend you do it), it won't take much power to run you out of the room!

 

[yepimonfire]

Which model of Denon do you have?
One advantage of Klipsch is they are very efficient.
It would be good to know exactly which Denon you have, but if you plan to set the speakers to small and use a sub (which is how we would recommend you do it), it won't take much power to run you out of the room!

I can acheive reference levels of 105dB per channel in a 20x12 room 11' away using a wimpy denon x1300w rated at 80wpc.

Using a cheap lepai amp, bench tested by oldskool stereo to barely push 7wpc, on a pair of klipsch r-15m, i managed 98dB into the same room before the amp distorted.

You dont need an external amp with klipsch speakers.

What id focus on is a bigger sub to keep up with the main speakers.

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[sholling]

4K compliant. I looked at Emotiva 5175 amp and their BASX 7.1 pre. Tryin to keep the power investment at 1K.

Those speakers do not require much power at all and by themselves do not justify an expensive upgrade. As as long as both your TV and receiver support HDMI with an audio return channel (ARC) then neither does 4K video. I plug my 4k capable Shield TV set top box directly into my TV and the TV forwards 5.1 audio back to my receiver via the HDMI ARC. When I add a 4K Blu-Ray player, or more likely a 4k ready Xbox I'll plug that into my TV as well. As long as your TV and receiver support ARC then I'd probably hold off the AVR upgrade until you buy speakers that demand more power or you need more features.