Ben-Hur (2016) Why? Why? Why?

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andyblackcat

Audioholic General
A remake again is a simple no way see.

Just watched the 1959 remake last night that still holds its ground.

 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Because, when you want $$ but are out of ideas, try to recycle something that's been successfully done already.
 
TheWarrior

TheWarrior

Audioholic Ninja
A remake again is a simple no way see.

Just watched the 1959 remake last night that still holds its ground.

Weren't you just warned about traveling to America? That included buying our crappy remakes!
 
tyhjaarpa

tyhjaarpa

Audioholic Field Marshall
Didn't expect Morgan Freeman to be in that remake..
 
killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Samurai
the 1959 remake
You know your stuff. I wanted to warn about this, but may have underestimated you. An interesting thing, Ben Hur had like dozens of remakes (not all are even that well known). It was also a theater play and some stagings were "pretentious" :) enough to bring sand on stage thus making it actually very, very similar to simulated sea battles in ancient arenas where they pored water in the arenas.

Nevertheless, it is interesting how the remake itself is not an issue, but we mostly simply don't like the way things are being remade today. Although, to the dread of most of us, in 40 years someone might see this one as his "59' remake", the one he saw when he was a kid and that stuck with him.

Remakes are very interesting. I remember discussing this tirelessly back when I was on my PhD (never finished, in case you wonder); unless the director himself (or better yet the holy trinity director/cameraman/screenwriter) don't openly state they remade something, there's no real way of finding out. Perhaps you could argue it is a remake by analyzing style of some scenes, but then perhaps it was just a few scenes and not everything.

Movies based on books are best examples of this. Is every new Frankenstein a remake of the famous universal 'monster-flick' with Boris Karloff making a sort of chain of remakes, or is every new Frankenstein a new adaptation originating from the book itself?
 
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shawnlim

Audiophyte
When I think about this movie, I imagine about my mother's time. :D
The old movie was very popular and my mother loves to watch it.
And now they remake it. If it ever release, I will watch, probably I will ask my mother along. :)
 
skizzerflake

skizzerflake

Audioholic Field Marshall
Yikes, a new Ben Hur. It will be interesting to see what they do with it. While the 1959 version is a classic, I don't really think that it holds up that well in some ways, notably the casting of blond Charleton Heston as an unbearded ancient world Jew, nor the portrayal of Jesus that looks like a victorian era prayer book. The original book was a pop hit in the post-bellum era, the sort of stained glass sanctimony that worked at that time, so I don't regard either the movie or the book with any particular reverence.

Nevertheless, the director, Timur Bemanbetov, did bring us Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter, so the potential for some serious re-working of fictionalized "history" is very high.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
From the director whom already murdered absolutely excellent books with terrible movie adaptations like Night Watch and Day Watch and such classic as above mentioned - Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter - I expect nothing less than weak B rated movie.
Truly a great way to honor the classic ..
/s
 

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