B&w 683 and focal 726 with denon 1510?

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Crystalarts

Audiophyte
Hi there I am new to the hi fi world and recently picked up a denon amp 1510 due to it being last one in Dubai and only other options being cheap amps or amps out with my price range.

So I tested it with the following speakers (not many options here) all costing about 900 gbp

Focal 726
Klipsch r82
Wharfedale evo2 40
Aviano 8

I used the following songs as tests :

Brighton rock, queen
Battle of Evermore, led zep
Larks tongue in aspics pt 1, king crimson
Stockholm syndrome, Muse
Always driving in same car, bowie

Anyway side by side comparison the 726 came out on top big time, there was a sense of urgency with them and not too much bass and not too little (wharfedale had none whilst klipsch too much) . The aviano was a good alrounder but didnt really do anything for me. The 726 whilst bassy never lost the detail and soundstage was impressive. It just wowed me.

Now I am keen on getting them however before I do so I want to test b&w 683 speakers. Unfortunately I can't test them with my amp only a rotel. I plan on checking it out this week.

My room is 6x4m however it leads onto another room of 6x4m and the open area is large enough that you could call the room a 6x8m room.

Tiled floor and windowed wall on the full 4m side of the wall in both rooms. Hard concrete walls too.

So I was wondering about the focal and b&w...

1. Are 600 series and 700's similar standard? Ie are they comparable or are the 800's closer to the 600 series? I know that focal are more expensive for what u get due to higher cost of manufacturing in France vs china (600 series)
2. Main difference between b&w vs focal sound? What can I expect when I finally hear the 683?
3. Difference between denon 1510 sound and rotel 1520 sound? Since I want to be able to consider amp effect on 683 when I listen to it.
4. A room such as I described... 683 maybe a better option since it comes with plugs? Manage bass better...?
5. Any other thoughts?

To be honest I already listened to 683s but wasn't impressed but this is due to the fact that the shop was renovating and they ha them in a padded room which allowed no reflection at all. So I want to give them another chance in a similar environment to when i tested the focals
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
So I was wondering about the focal and b&w...

1. Are 600 series and 700's similar standard? Ie are they comparable or are the 800's closer to the 600 series? I know that focal are more expensive for what u get due to higher cost of manufacturing in France vs china (600 series)
2. Main difference between b&w vs focal sound? What can I expect when I finally hear the 683?
3. Difference between denon 1510 sound and rotel 1520 sound? Since I want to be able to consider amp effect on 683 when I listen to it.
4. A room such as I described... 683 maybe a better option since it comes with plugs? Manage bass better...?
5. Any other thoughts?

To be honest I already listened to 683s but wasn't impressed but this is due to the fact that the shop was renovating and they ha them in a padded room which allowed no reflection at all. So I want to give them another chance in a similar environment to when i tested the focals
1. The 700's should be closer to the 800's.
2. You have to hear it for yourself, the specs are comparable and the 683 has better low bass response.
3. I think the Denon will have more power for your speakers in the real world, when continuous power is not as important as peak/dynamic power capability.
4. Hard to say, your best bet is to run Audyssey and let it EQ the bass, you can bypass the L/R channel if you don't like its effect, but let it take care of the bass.
5. Those speakers could probably do better in your not too small room with more power than the Denon 1510, if you like to listen a little loud and/or music contents good dynamic range. I would get a 4311 for that room, for a littel over 1k it is the best deal right now if you can find it. Your room being full of windows, tiles and concrete, you should benefit from the 4311's Audyssey XT32. It is also 4 ohm rated so quite suitable for either the B&W or the Focal, both have impedance dips below 4 ohms.
 
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Crystalarts

Audiophyte
Amp wise there was only entry level marantz or denon or high level stuff starting at 1,200 pounds. I got the 1510 which is usually going for about 900 pounds for only 450 pounds.

I can't afford more expensive amps due to the fact I bought a CD player, network player and turntable too... Now I just need the speakers :)
 

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