AVR Purchase help: RE HDMI/DVI

1khpsupra

1khpsupra

Audioholic Intern
Old HT Setup
Sony 52 Inch rear projection - Dead
Kenwood VR-3080 – Only one side of amp functioning
SVS-16-46 PC+ Subwoofer
Klipsch Reference Speakers
2 - RB-15 Rears
2 - RF-25
1- RC-3 Center
2- RS-3 Surrounds

I have order the following last week:
Toshiba 62HM195 – Received
OPPO OPDV971H DVD
1 "ButtKicker LFE Kit"
2 "Atlantic 77305018 Satellite Speaker Stands, Black"

Most of my cables were old and soldier several times over, so I making new
ones and ordering.
Cobalt Ultimate Subwoofer Cable • 3 Meters, Connectors: RCA/Male XLR
Cobalt Ultimate Subwoofer Cable • 7.5 Meters, Connectors: RCA/Male XLR
Cobalt Ultimate Y-Adapter • Connectors: XLR Male/Two XLR Female
1 "METRA Ltd S10-500 MTA 10 Gauge Clear Speaker Wire"
8 "DAYTON BADP-GBK GOLD DUAL BANANA PLUG BLACK"

My HT room is an odd configuration, 21 feet by 40 feet opening into my kitchen. I have vaulted ceilings that reach to the top of the roof, no attic space. I’m not very knowledgeable on HDMI, even DVI. I want to replace my Kenwood receiver but I’m having a hard time deciphering the technology. My max spending would be the AVR-4806, going to the Yamaha 4600 and Pioneer 74txi. Tweeted told me they will have the AVR-4306 on Nov 17th so that is an option for me as well. I’m ready to purchase quickly as I cannot enjoy what I have bought to the fullest with my Kenwood AVR. I confused right now on the the HDMI up conversion using the HD Inputs on the Toshiba? I may be misreading what the TV will actually do. Any help on the right AVR would be greatly appreciated, especially regarding the HDMI up conversion / switching via the AVR. I have been reading every thread I could find about the above receivers but have not been able to come to a decisive purchase.


If anyone would like pictures of the 62HM195 let me know, already have a few.

Thank you
Jason
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
Might I suggest that, unless you really MUST have the look of Cobalt cables, you can get something of equal quality for much less from Blue Jeans.
 
1khpsupra

1khpsupra

Audioholic Intern
Thank for the information on the Blue Jeans.

Not sure what you mean by the look. A friend tried to get me to go with Bettercables, but price was to high. His second pic was Cobalt cable. I will have to read up on Blue Jeans as I could have saved quite a bit over cobalt, even more over bettercables.
Thank you
Jason
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
No Problem. The proof is in the specs. Here's Cobalt Cable's specs:

Technical Details:
Overall Nominal Diameter: .303 Inch
Conductor: Stranded 22 AWG Bare Copper
Shield: 95% over 92% Bare Copper Braid
Nominal DC Resistance: <15.3 ohms/1000 ft.
Nominal Impedance: 75 ohms
Velocity of Propagation: 66%
Capacitance: 21 pF/ft

Here's Blue Jean's Specs on the Canare LV-77S Coax: http://canare.com/index.cfm?objectid=0D3980BC-3048-7098-AF2B810B1D1F094B
Scroll down and you can see the specs are identical, meaning that Cobalt's subwooofer cable is nothing but a fancy looking cable made with LV-77S coax.
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Yamaha RX-V2600

Check out the new Yamaha RX-V2600. It costs less than the 4600 and has more HDMI features including upscalling to 1080i or 720P.

In my opinion, the HDMI switching feature of the newest receivers are overrated. You might consider buying an RX-V2500 for $6-700 and purchasing an HDMI switchbox later if necessary.

The newest receivers support HDMI 1.1 and version 1.2 is already out.
 
1khpsupra

1khpsupra

Audioholic Intern
That’s amazing to see the specs, then comparing price. I was confused when you said looks, as I though it might have been more complex a question than just how a cable apears. It would be illogical to me to purchase on looks VS performance, since the cables are not seen. Toshiba 62hm195 was not my favorite looking TV, but met expectations at a price I could afford. My worry is not buying enough receiver and having buyer’s remorse. My Kenwood has consistently been a disappointment to me compared to what I could have bought in the same time frame. I would rather go over on the receiver if it will deliver on auto eq, provided optimum power for 7 speaker setup. On paper the 2600 looks great but then I compare specs of 4600, 74txi 4806 the Denon looks like a winner. I admit the 4600 seems to be more of a logical purchase when it comes to just price / performance.

http://www.audioholics.com/cedia/cedia2004/DenonAVR3806AVR4306receive.php Looking here I see the THX modes betwwen 4306 and 4806 where I lean towards the 4806.

THX Post-Processing – DPL (4.0), DPL2 Cinema, DD/DTS (5.1), ES Discrete (6.1), ES Matrix, Neo:6 Cinema
THX Ultra2 7.1 Cinema, Music and Game Modes
THX Surround EX Decoding

I loof for THX when buying a certain video if I can find it. I also play xbox games, have 360 pre ordered. But at this point have read about the modes but not even sure on what movies / games or additional hardware you need to experience the above modes.


Looking at the Yamaha 4600 looks to be a much better processing value vs 4306. Fustrating as I like the specs on the 4806 just not the price.




jaxvon said:
No Problem. The proof is in the specs. Here's Cobalt Cable's specs:

Technical Details:
Overall Nominal Diameter: .303 Inch
Conductor: Stranded 22 AWG Bare Copper
Shield: 95% over 92% Bare Copper Braid
Nominal DC Resistance: <15.3 ohms/1000 ft.
Nominal Impedance: 75 ohms
Velocity of Propagation: 66%
Capacitance: 21 pF/ft

Here's Blue Jean's Specs on the Canare LV-77S Coax: http://canare.com/index.cfm?objectid=0D3980BC-3048-7098-AF2B810B1D1F094B
Scroll down and you can see the specs are identical, meaning that Cobalt's subwooofer cable is nothing but a fancy looking cable made with LV-77S coax.
 
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