av receiver question

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nolukjustskil

Enthusiast
so i dont know anything about the world of audio except really good things are extremely expensive lol. i just got Klipsch Reference Theater Pack 5.1 Channel Surround Sound System from newegg for $269. now i need to find a receiver to pair with it. ive done a little looking around the site searching Klipsch Reference Theater Pack, and from what i see, the sub is complete crap.
so would it be worth it to get a 5.2 receiver and add a sub in the future, get a 5.1 and upgrade the sub at a later date, or just be happy with what i get because its going to be better than what i currently have? if its the first option, what is a good, yet cheap 5.2 receiver?

in case someone doesnt know tech info on the speakers, they are 8omh, 50 watt (200 peak) satellite. 75 watt (300 peak) center. 50 watt (150 peak) 8" sub. https://d2um2qdswy1tb0.cloudfront.net/product-specsheets/Ref-Theater-Pack-5.1_Spec-Sheet.pdf (spec list)

i dont want to spend to much on a receiver, i just want an upgrade to what i currently have, which is crap. so like a $200ish that will be good for this speaker set is what im looking for. again, it doesnt have to be anything amazing, just give clean, correct power to the speakers.

thanks a bunch for the info. if someone doesnt have a recommendation, could you point me in the right direction on what i should look for when shopping for a new receiver? is total watts important, watt per channel? i just dont know anything about audio equipment and dont even know where to start.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
so i dont know anything about the world of audio except really good things are extremely expensive lol. i just got Klipsch Reference Theater Pack 5.1 Channel Surround Sound System from newegg for $269. now i need to find a receiver to pair with it. ive done a little looking around the site searching Klipsch Reference Theater Pack, and from what i see, the sub is complete crap.
so would it be worth it to get a 5.2 receiver and add a sub in the future, get a 5.1 and upgrade the sub at a later date, or just be happy with what i get because its going to be better than what i currently have? if its the first option, what is a good, yet cheap 5.2 receiver?

in case someone doesnt know tech info on the speakers, they are 8omh, 50 watt (200 peak) satellite. 75 watt (300 peak) center. 50 watt (150 peak) 8" sub. https://d2um2qdswy1tb0.cloudfront.net/product-specsheets/Ref-Theater-Pack-5.1_Spec-Sheet.pdf (spec list)

i dont want to spend to much on a receiver, i just want an upgrade to what i currently have, which is crap. so like a $200ish that will be good for this speaker set is what im looking for. again, it doesnt have to be anything amazing, just give clean, correct power to the speakers.

thanks a bunch for the info. if someone doesnt have a recommendation, could you point me in the right direction on what i should look for when shopping for a new receiver? is total watts important, watt per channel? i just dont know anything about audio equipment and dont even know where to start.
This is probably your best bet at the low end of the market. Just don't expect good reliability and longevity at the bottom end of the market. Don't expect much from that speaker system either. The problem is that buying at the bottom end of the market, ends up being the most expensive way to purchase equipment in the end.

I always advise purchase of at least a midrange system and steering clear of junk.
 
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nolukjustskil

Enthusiast
This is probably your best bet at the low end of the market. Just don't expect good reliability and longevity at the bottom end of the market. Don't expect much from that speaker system either. The problem is that buying at the bottom end of the market, ends up being the most expensive way to purchase equipment in the end.

I always advise purchase of at least a midrange system and steering clear of junk.
well im upgrading from an all-in-one LG system. so what im upgrading to is going to be miles ahead of what i currently have. this is what i currently have. i think i paid like 120$ total for the whole system like 3-4 years ago. it was good enough, i was able to hear things lol.

so what do you mean by good reliability? like i said, i dont know anything about the audio world.

im starting to feel like this isnt the forum for me. i mean i understand the getting better equipment. im a computer guy, so i would try to push someone into better equipment, but if they say they are on a short budget then ill recommend best bang for your buck. a perfect example would be a CPU like ryzen 3600, its like 200$ and is really amazing for the price point. and you will see a crap ton of performance if you are upgrading from a cheap I3 from 4 years ago (which is the same situation im in, and instead of people pushing the ryzen 3600, people are pushing me into a ryzen 7 5900 which is way more than i need.) but thanks for the info
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Don't expect everyone to agree on everything here. Yamaha doesn't make junk and reliability of inexpensive gear can be exceptional if you don't abuse it. If your goal is to play things like you are at a rock concert, but you are working with entry level gear, then you will quickly destroy what you own. But, if you listen at modest levels and have a room which works with the speakers you have, then you may have no issues at all with any of your gear, and really be quite happy with what you own for years to come.

Subwoofer excluded.

Certainly, upgrading to a nice SVS sub, or similar, is a great way to go, when budget allows. It is a tough expense to get a $500+ subwoofer if your budget is tight, it also is something you don't need to have in life, but it can be fun to enjoy. Keeping an eye on used subwoofers can also be a good way to go and can save some money. Older Velodyne or Sunfire have some excellent compact subwoofers that float around the used market that will be a significant upgrade, but you should buy something appropriate to your listening, budget, and room when that time comes.

You can save a few bucks with a refurb receiver as well...
 
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nolukjustskil

Enthusiast
Don't expect everyone to agree on everything here. Yamaha doesn't make junk and reliability of inexpensive gear can be exceptional if you don't abuse it. If your goal is to play things like you are at a rock concert, but you are working with entry level gear, then you will quickly destroy what you own. But, if you listen at modest levels and have a room which works with the speakers you have, then you may have no issues at all with any of your gear, and really be quite happy with what you own for years to come.

Subwoofer excluded.

Certainly, upgrading to a nice SVS sub, or similar, is a great way to go, when budget allows. It is a tough expense to get a $500+ subwoofer if your budget is tight, it also is something you don't need to have in life, but it can be fun to enjoy. Keeping an eye on used subwoofers can also be a good way to go and can save some money. Older Velodyne or Sunfire have some excellent compact subwoofers that float around the used market that will be a significant upgrade, but you should buy something appropriate to your listening, budget, and room when that time comes.

You can save a few bucks with a refurb receiver as well...
thank you so much for the info. also, thank you for the link to the refurb receiver, I'm prob going to end up buying that because everyone is saying that it's THE entry-level receiver.
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
I know a guy who plays Clash of Clans and calls himself "NotLuckSkill"... is this you Brian??
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
As to the 5.1 vs 5.2 avr you mentioned earlier. The number of sub pre-outs it has isn't all that meaningful, as you can always use a splitter yourself (and many of the ".2" avrs just have an internal splitter), only a relative few avrs have two separately adjustable pre-outs (for level and delay/distance), and those tend to be at the higher end of a brand's avr models. Buying a set of speakers with a sub like you have usually isn't as good as shopping for your speakers and subs separately, even if starting with just a 2.1 or 3.1 setup while you build it up.

If you don't have the needs for the latest/greatest audio (like Atmos or other systems utilizing ceiling speakers) or video then perhaps picking up a used receiver might be an option as well. Generally you want to spend quite a bit more on speakers/subs than the avr.
 
Eppie

Eppie

Audioholic Ninja
Yes, won't find much in the $200 range unless you can find a refurb on accessories4less.com as mentioned. The Yamaha is a decent starter AVR.

The op will not likely be able to afford an SVS subwoofer. Something like this 12" Dayton from PartsExpress is only $180 and will go much deeper than the included Klipsch sub.
EDIT: Should probably mention that the Dayton is wired while the included Klipsch has a wireless module. Should mention Erin's budget subwoofer shoot out as well
 
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