Audio lag/lead using tape out to second receiver

[PayWaldo]

Hey! Weird issue here. I ended up solving my own problems. Short story, the "master unit" had a lag set to 50ms that I didn't know about and initially i couldn't find the manual lag options in the settings. found it and putting that to 0 solved this issue!!

If you want to know what the issue was, keep reading. if not stop here.

I'm using component cables going from an Onkyo TX-SR605 to a Yamaha RX-V595. So the Onkyo is essentially the master, and the Yamaha the slave unit. The master audio is lagging behind the slave unit's audio. By fiddling with things, I've noticed if I set the Onkyo equalizer setting to be "direct", then there is no lag between speakers/recievers. When I use any equalizer settings besides "direct" the speakers connected to the Yamaha (slave unit) will lead the audio coming from the Onkyo speakers. I havn't used 'tape out' much in the past as i havn't had a need.

The 'direct" setting does not utilize my center speaker plus the quality isn't great so i'd rather not use it. The lead/lag is very noticeable and ruins the experience.

More info if interested. The Yamaha is powering some semi custom theater chairs that have subwoofers in them. I don't currently have a low pass filter going to the subs, you more get a vibration effect of the chairs. If i used some lowpass filters, the lead/lag i'm assuming would be less noticeable, but i'd like to solve this either way.

 

[PayWaldo]

ok.... stupid mistakes..... at first i couldn't find the lag settings on the Onkyo (the nicer one). Finally found the settings and fixed the issue.

This post can be deleted if needed.

 

[lovinthehd]

Hey glad you figured it out altho I'm not sure you've got the best solution so have some questions for you. So, since ya posted and I stopped by and read 'em.....

First, had me confused there when you said component cables which are generally video-only. Composite might be a better word, and assume this was just two channel I rather than multi-channel or are your tape-outs multich on that Onkyo? Why not just use the pre-outs on the Onkyo instead if you want to apply dsp to the signal and use the Yamaha as amp-only (and what inputs on the Yamaha did you use)? I assume tape out is just the L/R signal, not sure why you expected the center channel, too.

Adding dsp in the Onkyo while passing a direct signal via tape out to the Yamaha might explain the lag, tho. You adjusted this with what particularly? Distance/delay controls or lip sync or?

ps Just re-read the bit about direct, yes that would bypass any upmixing as well as you're not outputting a center channel so far....unless you use the pre-out for that....and your Yamaha has an appropriate input for such too.