Any word YET on SACD with Denon Link?

MarkSJohnson

MarkSJohnson

Junior Audioholic
I've searched the forums to make sure and STILL don't see an answer on Denon Link supporting SACD. It seems the answer is always around the corner.

Please excuse my ignorance, but I guess I'm also curious as to how it helps or what benefits it offers. Some questions:

:confused: I know it sends the signals digitally, so the receiver (in my case the 3805) does the D/A conversion. But isn't it likely that the D/A conversion in a $1,000 player is at least as good as a $1,000 receiver?

:confused: I've read that it offers better bass management. What EXACTLY does it offer? Different management for SACD than DVD-Audio? Different crossover points for different speakers (as opposed to the 3805 receiver's "ALL @80Hz"... or "ALL @100Hz", etc?

:confused: Is there any actual audio difference between using the 5.1 analog connections of a player such as the 2910 VS. the Denon link of a model such as the 3910?

I had ben planning on getting a 3910 to match my 3805 receiver, but I'm really beginning to wonder exactly what I would be missing if I went with the 2910 instead for half the price.

I'm sorry for the ignorance I'm howing here, I just can't find a simple couple of paragraphs on EXACTLY the benefits on using Denon Link. You'd think Denon would write something up so they could tout it's features... unless they're not all that impressive and Denon wants to keep the info a little "fuzzy"!! I really wish Denon at least had a comprehensive comparison chart between the two players. If they're not going to adaquately explain Denon Link, at LEAST make some other differences clear. :(

Wo, I sound like an undecided voter.... :p
 
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eirepaul

Audioholic
same questions

I also have exactly the same questions - I just don't know if the extra money is worth it for the 3910 over the 2910. I am much more of an audiophile than a videophile. I would like to take advantage of either Denon link for audio or HDMI. You can't have either with a 2910 and 3805 combination. Any thoughts from anyone - Gene?
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
Mad rant...

My reply is a little off topic but I can't help but to comment....

The mere need for this type of post is IMHO a sign of the pathetic stupidity of the music industry. WHy is it so hard to get lossless digital interfaces when these technologies are fundamentally well-established and standarized? The recording industry really is a bunch of morons! They CAN NOT STOP one single person who wants to pirate copy the material. A high quality A-D process of the analog stream will be transparent. Rediculously hig quality recording hardware is available at cheap prices(EMU 1212 anyone?). Bingo. Perfectly usable hi quality data has been created for pirating. The only people these acts of idiocy affects are the consumers!

-Chris

MarkSJohnson said:
I've searched the forums to make sure and STILL don't see an answer on Denon Link supporting SACD. It seems the answer is always around the corner.

Please excuse my ignorance, but I guess I'm also curious as to how it helps or what benefits it offers. Some questions:

:confused: I know it sends the signals digitally, so the receiver (in my case the 3805) does the D/A conversion. But isn't it likely that the D/A conversion in a $1,000 player is at least as good as a $1,000 receiver?

:confused: I've read that it offers better bass management. What EXACTLY does it offer? Different management for SACD than DVD-Audio? Different crossover points for different speakers (as opposed to the 3805 receiver's "ALL @80Hz"... or "ALL @100Hz", etc?

:confused: Is there any actual audio difference between using the 5.1 analog connections of a player such as the 2910 VS. the Denon link of a model such as the 3910?

I had ben planning on getting a 3910 to match my 3805 receiver, but I'm really beginning to wonder exactly what I would be missing if I went with the 2910 instead for half the price.

I'm sorry for the ignorance I'm howing here, I just can't find a simple couple of paragraphs on EXACTLY the benefits on using Denon Link. You'd think Denon would write something up so they could tout it's features... unless they're not all that impressive and Denon wants to keep the info a little "fuzzy"!! I really wish Denon at least had a comprehensive comparison chart between the two players. If they're not going to adaquately explain Denon Link, at LEAST make some other differences clear. :(

Wo, I sound like an undecided voter.... :p
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
Besides, why bother to try? The music industry thinks that 128 kbps MP3s are Destroying Western Civilization anyway. If low bitrate music is crippling them, then why do they think the 100,000 copies per year of SACD are going to hurt them any worse?
 
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eirepaul

Audioholic
denon link

It is extremely annoying to me that after spending over $1,000 on the 3805 I would have to spend $1300 on the 3910 to take advantage of the Denon link. I only need the 2910 but cannot understand why they didn't include their link on this unit. I am not getting the 3910 and I may just wait until 2005 to see what Denon comes out with next in an affordable player with the link.

I understand the advantages of an unblemished digital signal path, but would it really be that much better than high quality analog cabling. Could I really hear a noticable difference that is worth an additional $650. The D/A converters in the 3805 are also high quality. Any experience or recommendations from anyone? thanks.
 

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