Any way to have video without having the receiver on?

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guitarplyrstevo

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A lot of my customers always ask if they can still get audio and video if their receiver is off? Are there any specific receivers that have a true bypass so they can get audio and video with the receiver being off? If not, how is it possible to do this because I'm sure there are a lot of people out there that want to watch, for example the news, but do not want to have the surround sound on.
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

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second connections

A lot of my customers always ask if they can still get audio and video if their receiver is off? Are there any specific receivers that have a true bypass so they can get audio and video with the receiver being off? If not, how is it possible to do this because I'm sure there are a lot of people out there that want to watch, for example the news, but do not want to have the surround sound on.
All of the AVRs I know about have active electronic switching and must be on. Therefore, IMHO, the is nofrom the normal AVR direct connection.

However, if you are willing to have potentially degraded audio and potentially degraded video you could have a second set of connections directly to the TV. The reason I say potentially degraded audio, you might have to connect a different method, if HMDI then left/right RCA stereo. I guess it is possible to bridge the audio source device output since it is pre-pro; however I have never done it and would have to think about some more. I know it is okay and done all of the time with sub /LFE output to multiple subwoofers

As far as video, I know of very few audio/video source devices that have multiple HMDI output. So if the primary HDMI out is connected to the AVR and a second HDMI is not available then component, optical or composite would need to be connected to the TV as a secondary video connection. Component would provide close to the same if not equal level. The same with optical. Composite would obviously be a degradation. However, I know some older TVs (example my Mitsubishi WS5589) only the on primary component input allows full 1080i resolution, the others are limted to 480p). Maybe newer TVs don't have this limitation ; it is a 2002 model

This also assumes the audio/video source device can simutaneously deliver output on multiple output ports. Some audio/video source devices must be setup and a specifc single output source collected. I know the DishNetwork devices 622DVR abd 722DVR as audio/source devices do output via multple means at the same time. Therefore you could connect the HDMI to your primary AVR and connect the component output directly to your TV.

When you use the TV to receive multiple audio/video sources then the TV becomes the selection device. So even though you wouldn't have to turn on the AVR, you would have to go through input selection on the TV and change it back when you were finished

So botom line: A stron probably not through AVR , but possilbe in most cases with a secondary audio/video connections from the audio/video source device will work
 
Haoleb

Haoleb

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Most of the time if you wanted to do something like that you just hook the video sources to the tv directly. Although if your using a universal remote that will only complicate things as you have to then program different macros for turning everything on or just turning the minimal on.

If you have only one video source this is not as complicated since there is no video switching involved. I dont know of any reciever available that does what your looking for as most systems require video switching which is the entire reason for using a reciever in the chain for video as i am sure you're aware.
 
Nomo

Nomo

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Yamaha's new RX-V3900 will pass an HDMI signal in stand by mode.
I'm not sure yet about the RX-V1900.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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A lot of my customers always ask if they can still get audio and video if their receiver is off? Are there any specific receivers that have a true bypass so they can get audio and video with the receiver being off? If not, how is it possible to do this because I'm sure there are a lot of people out there that want to watch, for example the news, but do not want to have the surround sound on.
This would be their best option.
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

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local with digital convertor box

Um, get an antenna?

-pat
Pzaur,

That is an actually pretty good idea, for local channels for news, if you put one of the new digital converter boxes on the TV. Though, I will probably never use them except in an emergency, I got two of the $40 discount and after a fairly quick review of digital convertors, I bought two of the Zenith DTT900 from Radio Shack
$59.99 less $40 = $19.99
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3006502&cp=2032057.2032187.2032188.2032199&sr=1&origkw=Tv+converters&parentPage=family

I hooked it up and tested it out. It works good, but I won't give up my DishNetwork goes out because of a hurricane or heavy rain.

Later MidCow2


P.S. - Phew! my last day of 15 hour/day on-call work :)
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

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auto-sensing 2 into 1 HDMI input

This would be their best option.
The splitter is a good idea, bit you still would have to use the TV as the switching device. Just my humble opionion but sometimes I think the reason people was a one button TV only TV is laziness.

For the really lazy one-button person:rolleyes:. Get the splitter as TLS guy suggests and then at the TV put an intelligent autosensing switch, example:
KeyDigital 2X1 HDMI Switch KD-HDMI2X1.
http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-video/a-v-switchers/hdmi-switcher/2-hdmi-inputs/keydigital-2x1-hdmi-switch-kd-hdmi2x1/prodKDHDMI2X1.html
You set it on auto-sensing, but then you have to give the AVR priority over the direct split signal. So you ultimate goal: (1) turn the TV on and if the AVR is off then it auto senses the HDMI signal from the HDMI splitter. (2) if the ACR is on, the AVR HDMI signal has higher priority and the signal from the AVR is used even thougg the second HDMI signal from the splitter is sensed.

However, you need a QOS (Quality of Service) device which I am not sure exists that would priritize different inputs in the auto sensing unit.

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For the really lazy :rolleyes: a second TV for bypassing the AVR and for news only!
 
pzaur

pzaur

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Pzaur,

That is an actually pretty good idea, for local channels for news, if you put one of the new digital converter boxes on the TV. Though, I will probably never use them except in an emergency, I got two of the $40 discount and after a fairly quick review of digital convertors, I bought two of the Zenith DTT900 from Radio Shack
$59.99 less $40 = $19.99
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3006502&cp=2032057.2032187.2032188.2032199&sr=1&origkw=Tv+converters&parentPage=family

I hooked it up and tested it out. It works good, but I won't give up my DishNetwork goes out because of a hurricane or heavy rain.

Later MidCow2


P.S. - Phew! my last day of 15 hour/day on-call work :)
I actually built one out of two coat hangers and speaker wire. Works really well!

-pat
 
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