<font color='#000000'>Do you think then, that there is a menu option of deriving front effects channels signals and then passing those signals to outboard amps, with the DSP engine routing presence ambience effects to those 2 additional speakers (RX-V1400/2400)?
Of course, if there is a 7.1+2 front effects RX-V3400, then this is all moot.
I agree that overall, some receivers now seem to be more cutting edge in their offerings than pre/pros, representing better value. I just wish for example, that the RX-Z9 had a rear expansion bay for future upgrade to DVI/HDMI. Say what you will regarding the cost of pre/pros, some do offer this modular approach as a means of protecting one's entertainment investment.</font>