Anthem D2v and Anthem AVM 50v

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tikboy1010

Enthusiast
Hi guys.

Tried to look for any feed back on these two processors but no luck. Are they any good? Why does it seem that there aren't a lot of people using this.

Thanks.
 
gonk

gonk

Full Audioholic
They are quite good. They're also pretty pricey, which is one reason you don't see a ton of people using them.
 
walter duque

walter duque

Audioholic Samurai
Excellent company. That'll be my next processor if funds ever available.
 
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oppman99

Senior Audioholic
I would love to have either of those processors and some Anthem amps as well. Just don't have the funds to make it a reality. Maybe someday. If you try one or both and don't like them, you can just ship them to my door to get rid of them. :D
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Have you stopped by the AVSforum area, there is an entire thread dedicated to both of those units... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=678260

I have the D2v, and have been very very happy with it, SQ is fantastic - and the video processor is at the top of the game in the industry...

I got mine about a year ago, and couldn't be happier - there are others out there for less money (ie Integra) that can start to compete but I think the Anthems have the edge, and ARC is a great room processing part of the equation, it made a huge difference for my less then stellar room.

You can try to read the thread at AVS, but it is extremely long and very detailed. It would be extremely hard to find someone as well knowledged as Bob Pariseau to be of assistance. He is a great asset to that thread.
 
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chadburger

Banned
I have a D2V I installed a few weeks ago, it replaced a Lexicon MC8B that I use in bedroom now. The Anthem is a serious unit with tons of great features, a amazing video scaler, I run a Plasma for day use and Projector at night so 2 HDMI outs are really nice. The internal DACS are pretty good, I use a yube pre for music (ARC Ref3) but I tested it and its good just different.
The features, adjustments, ARC, flexability and build quality are all stellar, down to its mic stand is all quality. ARC is a breeze to run and tweak, the only thing I need to really learn is video adjustments in time.
After ARC was set I never have heard dialogue sound so good from center and the sub has never been so articulate, as far as surrounds the steering is great but didnt notice much as far as ARC. The tuner is so so, its good and all but I have a Luxman T117 that is IMO better sounding but to be honest a tuner was not on my radar but its there if you need it.
I got mine for under $6k and am very happy with it.
 
gonk

gonk

Full Audioholic
You can try to read the thread at AVS, but it is extremely long and very detailed. It would be extremely hard to find someone as well knowledged as Bob Pariseau to be of assistance. He is a great asset to that thread.
I know Bob from beta testing for OPPO Digital - he's a tremendous resource and extremely knowledgeable.
 
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tikboy1010

Enthusiast
Thank you very much for your replies.

I read somewhere that the D2v has an edge over the AVM 50v when it comes to listening to music? Is the difference significant? I plan to use either of the two both for movies and stereo. Does this make sense?

I will also check out AVS forums.

Thanks
 
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chadburger

Banned
I think its is a benfit of the D2V with music and it also has updated video scaler, I think its worth it.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Thank you very much for your replies.

I read somewhere that the D2v has an edge over the AVM 50v when it comes to listening to music? Is the difference significant? I plan to use either of the two both for movies and stereo. Does this make sense?

I will also check out AVS forums.

Thanks
Here is a post by Bob Pariseau, however it's over a year old. The 50v is the better value. The major features seem to be identical, ARC included. The upgrade in DACs and supporting chips, well, either you hear them . . . or you don't, if it's true that we cannot distinguish one decent DAC from another. If it is indeed audible, just how audible is it, and is it worth it? IMO, you're better off getting the best speakers you can afford, best subs you can afford, best treating allowable of the space, with regards to placement of all the above and most importantly yourself. If, however, all that is taken care of, the D2v is the more desirable unit. What I don't know is how much, if at all, the price difference has been reduced during the last year.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15546653&postcount=17883

Simultaneous post with Warp!
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Holy Geebus.... we posted the same thing at the exact same time...

High Figh to us.... !!!!
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Prices are exactly the same ---- List Price and then whatever you can get for a discount from your particular dealer...

I got an amazing price on the D2v that sucked me in to just going all the way. Otherwise I was on the fence....


I love my D2v and wouldn't trade it for anything that has surfaced in the last year that I have had it or for anything that has or is coming out in the future.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Is the Anthem D2 pre-pro fully balanced from Input to Output?

I ask because Denon CLAIMS that their AVP-A1HDCI is the ONLY pre-pro in the WORLD that is truly fully balanced from Input to Output.

So I was thinking, what about the $20K Mark Levinson, or Krell or the Anthem D2?
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
I had the same question before buying the D2v...

I have a question about the D2v regarding Balanced.

My Wyred4Sound amp has dual 3 prong grounded power chords, and the D2v has 2 prongs from the pictures, and a ground lug. How does the unit maintain a fully balanced unless its grounded. Just trying to understand.

I found this info from EJ at Wyred4Sound
Even though the amplifier will be driven balanced on a single-ended source, there are many advantages to using balanced (XLR). This would mainly be beneficial if you can connect from the beginning with XLR all the way to the amplifier.

An RCA connector consists of a + signal, and ground (shield). An XLR connector consists of a + signal, - signal, and ground (shield).

When using RCA, the ground (shield) is connected to the – signal input on the amplifier. If you have any noise or interference in your system, it will be amplified through the amp, and out your speakers. The amplifier then derives the – signal from the + signal by inverting it 180deg out of phase with respect to the + input.

When using XLR the + and – signals are a product of the source, and the ground is simply a shield. The major advantage is that the ground or shield isn’t tied in with any of the signals. Not to mention that neither of the signals are “made up”, or referenced to ground.

All in all, we have found that XLR connections have a much better sonics than RCA. The most noticable would be that the noise level is reduced. Some of the cheapest XLR cables, can be much better than some of the expensive RCA's, so that would be something to consider. However, if you have a REALLY quiet system (noise), you wouldn't see much improvement.
From the Anthem FAQ
http://statement.anthemav.com/HTML/T...upport.html#Q1

Q9: Why do the power cords have two prongs instead of three?

A: To help prevent ground loops, which occur when there is more than one ground path. Often misunderstood, the ground conductor prevents the chassis from becoming live if the AC line touches it. We use double insulation instead, something that may sound unfamiliar, but you've seen it before on power tools. This method may cost a little more, but no one can resort to using a 3-prong to 2-prong adapter to open a ground loop ("cheater" plug in this case since the green wire is used for decoration instead of safety).

Q1: Are the XLR connections on the amps and preamps truly balanced?

A: Yes. All three pins of the XLR connection are part of the circuit, which means it's a real balanced connection. (If pin 3 is sent to ground or left open, as is sometimes the case, then an XLR jack is an adapter, not a balanced input.) The purpose of balanced connection is cancelling out certain types of interference and ground loops.


Q2: What about the whole circuit from front to back - is it fully balanced?

A: No. At some point the signal must become single-ended, or interference can't be cancelled. This is better done sooner rather than later in the signal chain. The purpose of a balanced stage within a circuit is cancelling out nonlinearities arising in the circuit itself, and/or to double the signal level while cancelling out some noise. This is purely a means, not an end. We use a balanced arrangement in specific areas within a circuit where it makes a meaningful difference. Doing this to an entire piece of equipment for the sake of using the catch phrase "fully balanced" may achieve nothing but a significant increase in cost, or worse if the two halves of the circuit aren't matched well.
 
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