analysis plus cable

[hankl]

Hi,
Has anyone tried the analysis plus theather speaker cables? Their site seems interesting and they tout some impressive, if true, qualities of the cables.
Thanks,
Henry Rancourt

 

[TLS Guy]

Hi,
Has anyone tried the analysis plus theather speaker cables? Their site seems interesting and they tout some impressive, if true, qualities of the cables.
Thanks,
Henry Rancourt

Not round here they won't have. Another of many bogus websites, that are too often successful parting fools from their money.

Here is just a quote from the website, to give members a flavor of the ubiquitous and loquacious BS of these kind of outfits.

This cable is very fast and detailed but without the harshness often associated with silver cables. It now has the punch in the low end with the incredible mid and highs that people have come to love in the Silver Oval.

Wire is wire.

All you need are cables from honest folk, like Blue Jeans Cable and Monoprice.

 

[Shock]

Only 10 grand for 4 feet of gold cable.....

 

[TLS Guy]

Only 10 grand for 4 feet of gold cable.....

What's the betting that Hankl bloke is the scammer in chief!

 

[highfigh]

Only 10 grand for 4 feet of gold cable.....

But, it's really good!

 

[jinjuku]

FYI everyone:

This is from a thread on audiogon:

If I watch a dvd or bluray movie only using the 2 channel analog stereo outputs of the bluray player connected to, the right and left channel inputs of, a pre-amp which is connected to a 2 channel amplifier, connected to 2 front speakers, will all the sound be heard? Or will anything be missing, like what is heard on a center channel speaker?
Thanks,
Henry Rancourt
Louislot (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

A bunch of replies in between...

05-09-11: Louislot
Thanks for all the replies. I guess my question was vague. I was wondering if I used the stereo 2 channel analog ouput on my oppo player and add a center channel speaker fed from the same 2 channel analog stereo output would it be the same as if I used the 7.1 center channel output of the OPPO bdp-95 player to feed the center channel speaker? Put another way, do blu-ray dvds actually divide different parts of a movie sound track that require using 7.1 so everything can be heard?
Thanks,
Henry Rancourt

 

[jinjuku]

If you are still around Henry I post this to let others know where you stand technically so the course of the conversation can change to best help you.

My read is that you are very new to this. That you haven't had someone sit down with you and explain in a reasoned, scientifically and mathematically, concise manner how all this works.

Why don't you start over and explain to potential help how new you are to all of this, where you are currently at in process and what you hope to achieve.

So far I am left with the impression that you are just spraying and praying when it comes to a good audio outcome.

Take care.

 

[Rickster71]

They have a "Make me prove it" section with White Papers on cable. Two out of three references were written in the 1930's

http://www.analysis-plus.com/design_main.html

References
1 Henry W. Ott, Noise Reduction Techniques in Electronics System (New York, NY John Wiley and Sons, 1988, p. 150)

2 Wilska, A.: Eine methode zur Bestimmung der Horschwellenamplituden des Trommelfells bei verschiedenen Frequenzen, Skandinav. Arch. Physiol., 72:161, 1935.

3 Sivian, L.J., and White, S.D.: On minimum audible sound fields, J. Acous. Soc. Am., 4:288, 1933

 

[markw]

Make me prove it.

To me, the best proof would be a 90 day (from end of stated break-in period, if any), no questions asked, money back guarantee.

Anything else is total hype.

 

[jinjuku]

To me, the best proof would be a 90 day (from end of stated break-in period, if any), no questions asked, money back guarantee.

Anything else is total hype.

That is something else I never understood with boutique cable manufacturers. If you believe enough in your product than a no hassle return policy for 100% minus shipping should be in place.

The cable should sound so great that the person isn't going to return it. 30 days should suffice. If you have the money buy what you want to buy. If it is a $3K amp for $1K of speakers knock yourself out. If it's some $300 interconnects, have at it. Just be prepared to be challenged when stating opinion as fact on this stuff.

I STILL can't get cable burn in proponents to allow me to send them two burned in and two new RCA or XLR cables all randomly marked. The threads are absolutely hilarious. Talk about back peddling.

 

[hankl]

Hi,
I have had a fairly high end stereo system since 1978. It was replaced with a very high end system about 12 years ago. I have had a high end home theater for the last 10years. I recently upgraded to the oppo bdp-95 and it has many options. I thought I could save some time by getting some info from this site. Also, my question about the analysis plus cables was because there was 23ft on ebay for $40.... CCCheap. My conclusion, from some of the respones, is that this is a rather juvenile site. I will be leaving immediatley.

 

[jinjuku]

Hi,
I have had a fairly high end stereo system since 1978. It was replaced with a very high end system about 12 years ago. I have had a high end home theater for the last 10years. I recently upgraded to the oppo bdp-95 and it has many options. I thought I could save some time by getting some info from this site. Also, my question about the analysis plus cables was because there was 23ft on ebay for $40.... CCCheap. My conclusion, from some of the respones, is that this is a rather juvenile site. I will be leaving immediatley.

Good luck in your audio journey

 

[markw]

Thanks for sharing that with us.

Hi,
I have had a fairly high end stereo system since 1978. It was replaced with a very high end system about 12 years ago. I have had a high end home theater for the last 10years. I recently upgraded to the oppo bdp-95 and it has many options. I thought I could save some time by getting some info from this site. Also, my question about the analysis plus cables was because there was 23ft on ebay for $40.... CCCheap. My conclusion, from some of the respones, is that this is a rather juvenile site. I will be leaving immediatley.

Well, one must wonder exactly how "high" your "high end" system is, and what your criteria for selecting the components was, if you're unwilling to take a $23 gamble to see if they make an audible difference and needed reassurance from "juvenile" strangers first.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[hankl]

I was not looking for "reassurance". It was a very simple question. Your response only solidifies my feelings.

 

[jinjuku]

I was not looking for "reassurance". It was a very simple question. Your response only solidifies my feelings.

Try the cable. If you don't like it you could probably resale and get most your money back.

If you like it then you spent $40 wisely. My experience is that you most likely, unsighted, wouldn't know the Analysis plus vs some Mogami Gold.

Really best of luck to you.

 

[markw]

Hey, you asked for it, you got it.

I was not looking for "reassurance". It was a very simple question. Your response only solidifies my feelings.

You asked for opinions and you got them. .. Good ones, but apparantly not what you wanted to hear.

And then you started in with the name calling. Now you want to try to claim the high road?

You're kidding me, right?

Begone, pest. ...or deal with whatever else is thrown your way. You've earned it.

 

[jinjuku]

You asked for opinions and you got them. .. Good ones, but apparantly not what you wanted to hear.

And then you started in with the name calling. Now you want to try to claim the high road?

Hold on Mark, TLS insinuated something with 'Scammer in Chief'. Let's be fair now.

 

[markw]

Hold on Mark, TLS insinuated something with 'Scammer in Chief'. Let's be fair now.

...even more justification for my previous post.

Actually, I doubt he is. From that snippet from Audiogon, he obviously doesn't have a clue about this hobby. He might spend the money, but he has no idea about how to wisely spend it, aside from what he reads. Now it looks like we don't measure up to his expectations. Boo hoo.

Now, we'll find out if he's good for his word...

 

[Alex2507]

I will be leaving immediatley.

Please don't go.

 

[highfigh]

To me, the best proof would be a 90 day (from end of stated break-in period, if any), no questions asked, money back guarantee.

Anything else is total hype.

"Cable break-in" does what, exactly? Has anyone seen a plausible explanation?