All-in-one player

[Npeart]

Looking for suggestions on an all-in-one Blu-Ray, DVD and CD player. I know BR only requires one cable. In a universal machine that also plays DVD and CD, would multiple cables be required? Or can I get away with one HDMI cable?

Any specific models you guys like?

 

[jamie2112]

I would buy this myself,if I were you http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/ Its the best you are going to get for the money,nothing else comes close IMO.....

 

[zhimbo]

I would buy this myself,if I were you http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/ Its the best you are going to get for the money,nothing else comes close IMO.....

True...but many would consider it overkill for someone who is not using SACD or DVD-Audio AND wants to use HDMI, not analog outputs.

Basically, ALL Blu-Ray players are "all in one" over HDMI if by "all in one" you mean BD, DVD & CD. So the field is wide open.

 

[TLS Guy]

Looking for suggestions on an all-in-one Blu-Ray, DVD and CD player. I know BR only requires one cable. In a universal machine that also plays DVD and CD, would multiple cables be required? Or can I get away with one HDMI cable?

Any specific models you guys like?

You will be able to use one HDMI cable. However unless the receiver or pre pro you plug it into has the loss less audio codecs you will not get the advantage of the audio potential of BD.

I have just got into BD and was surprised to find better than half my first purchases, only have two channel PCM or Dolby True HD ot DTS Master HD. There is no Dolby digital track at all, or any coding for getting true surround unless you have the new codecs, or can use your 7.1 analog inputs.

 

[jostenmeat]

I have just got into BD and was surprised to find better than half my first purchases, only have two channel PCM or Dolby True HD ot DTS Master HD. There is no Dolby digital track at all, or any coding for getting true surround unless you have the new codecs, or can use your 7.1 analog inputs.

Hey doc, you can still get "true surround" with DTS MA, as it is actually a dual bitstream: "original" lossy DTS + extension stream. If connected by S/PDIF, you will still get "true surround" (as just the first stream is passed). BTW, I'm glad you finally joined the blue man group. I know you get livid when thinking of the "sewers of Hollywood", as you put it, but I do hope you find the jump into this format as worthwhile. Cheers.

 

[jamie2112]

True...but many would consider it overkill for someone who is not using SACD or DVD-Audio AND wants to use HDMI, not analog outputs.

Basically, ALL Blu-Ray players are "all in one" over HDMI if by "all in one" you mean BD, DVD & CD. So the field is wide open.

I posted the wrong one sorry I ment to post http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-80/blu-ray-BDP-80-Image.aspx. Yes you are right

 

[TLS Guy]

Hey doc, you can still get "true surround" with DTS MA, as it is actually a dual bitstream: "original" lossy DTS + extension stream. If connected by S/PDIF, you will still get "true surround" (as just the first stream is passed). BTW, I'm glad you finally joined the blue man group. I know you get livid when thinking of the "sewers of Hollywood", as you put it, but I do hope you find the jump into this format as worthwhile. Cheers.

Well you taught me something there, I did not realize DTS gave you two for one: how elegant!

I'm looking at a BD right now though that only has two channel lossless PCM and Dolby True HD, no DTS track.

Yes, I have really got this system tuned up. I hope to have time to make some lengthy reviews not only of the discs, but the Marantz AV 8003, the Oppo BD-83, an AVTI pro buffer amp, and my fascinating.

So far I have watched Carmen from Glyndebourne recorded by the BBC in 5.1 Dolby True HD. Superb performance and picture, with gorgeous sound. The BBC got a perfect balance between the orchestra and stage. I have watched this twice, first by my self and with friends who came for the weekend who were bowled over.

I have watched Tannhauser from the Festspielhaus in Baden Baden. This recorded in 7.1 DTS Master HD. This is a another winner, the perspective given by the 7.1 audio was uncanny. I watched this all the way through alone, and a good section with our weekend guests. This is really spectacular. I kid you not it sounded like the opera house. The room was huge, with the stage and orchestra at a much greater distance then the end of the room, and yet detail maintained. In no way did the sound seem to be reproduced. It was somewhere between 90 and 95% of the real thing. I never thought I would live to experience such a phenomenon.

From the downbeat of the overture, I was enthralled, and the picture superb also.

This sound is so far above anything that can be done in lossy codes it is unbelievable. After hearing this I regard thinks lossy codecs as adequate just plain wrong and out to lunch.

 

[jostenmeat]

Well you taught me something there,

This is an extremely rare opportunity, so I am quite enjoying it.

I did not realize DTS gave you two for one: how elegant!

I concur! Well, on one hand the dual bitstreams make for an inherently more complex codec (and hence was the last one accounted for with disc players and processors alike), but OTOH I truly believe it is the better implementation. We don't have to choose anything within the menu, when this is the given codec. In fact, we don't even need an audio menu at all! (I find it slightly frustrating that I never know if any given BD is defaulted to the lossy or lossless codec, whether DD/TrueHD or DD/PCM).

I'm looking at a BD right now though that only has two channel lossless PCM and Dolby True HD, no DTS track.

Most* (not all Sony anyway) players can recode mch PCM into DD (or DTS). Yes, the only time(s) I've heard that a BD is not accompanied by a lossy surround track is indeed with music BDs.

Yes, I have really got this system tuned up. I hope to have time to make some lengthy reviews not only of the discs, but the Marantz AV 8003, the Oppo BD-83, an AVTI pro buffer amp, and my fascinating.

So far I have watched Carmen from Glyndebourne recorded by the BBC in 5.1 Dolby True HD. Superb performance and picture, with gorgeous sound. The BBC got a perfect balance between the orchestra and stage. I have watched this twice, first by my self and with friends who came for the weekend who were bowled over.

I have watched Tannhauser from the Festspielhaus in Baden Baden. This recorded in 7.1 DTS Master HD. This is a another winner, the perspective given by the 7.1 audio was uncanny. I watched this all the way through alone, and a good section with our weekend guests. This is really spectacular. I kid you not it sounded like the opera house. The room was huge, with the stage and orchestra at a much greater distance then the end of the room, and yet detail maintained. In no way did the sound seem to be reproduced. It was somewhere between 90 and 95% of the real thing. I never thought I would live to experience such a phenomenon.

From the downbeat of the overture, I was enthralled, and the picture superb also.

This sound is so far above anything that can be done in lossy codes it is unbelievable. After hearing this I regard thinks lossy codecs as adequate just plain wrong and out to lunch.

Well, my hopes have already proven true! Thanks very much for the reviews, but good sir, stay away from my wallet! I kid, I will look more closely at these titles soon, when time permits.

 

[Npeart]

The Oppo 80 is one player I was looking at. I have an Onkyo 706 receiver. Some of the language you guys are using is little over my head. Can I hook up the Oppo 80 to my Onkyo 706 and be good to go? Will I need any special settings?

 

[jostenmeat]

Can I hook up the Oppo 80 to my Onkyo 706 and be good to go? Will I need any special settings?

Yes. No.

Hook up HDMI, voila.

Perhaps a couple of basic settings (and most likely you don't even have to do that; my guess is that most default settings are just fine for 1080p BD, "1080p" DVD, and CD).

The point of this thread, well namely zhimbo's point which most of us agree with, is that ANY bluray player can already play all of the formats you mentioned. Even a $130 Panasonic.