Affordable Turntable and Tube amp Combo?

[nin8185]

Hello First Post, I am looking into getting a new Turntable that is affordable but has good sound and would be paired well with an affordable Tube Amp. I Currently own a Crosley CR66 which is nice for a office or den but the turntable is very bad and the built-in speakers with no external outs is horrendous. What I am looking to do is have a nice budget listening room to listen to my records.
I am looking into the Amazon.com: Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB Direct-Drive Professional Turntable (USB & Analog): Electronics and the Amazon.com: YAQIN NEW MC-13S EL34(6CA7)X4 Vacuum Tube Hi-end Tube Integrated Amplifier Push-Pull Silver: Electronics 45w per channel as the TOP of my Budget $900 realistically I would like to be around the $600 range if the 10w per channel tube amps are worth the investment Amazon.com: Gemini Doctor GemTune BL-02 Vacuum Tube Integrated Amplifier: Electronics the self biasing would be handy. But for ~$250 more the Yaqin as a whole lot more headroom I assume but will need to be played louder to saturate the tubes properly? I currently play guitar through a 18w Hughes and Kettner Tube amp which is plenty loud for guitar but dont know tube wattage translates with Vinyl?
Also With the Audio-Technica turntable with a tube amp,"A selectable internal stereo phono pre-amplifier allows the turntable to plug directly to components with no dedicated turntable input." I would assume dont need a pre amp to run it into a tube amp? As far as speakers, I am planing on using my Bose 2001 4-8ohm 50w speakers or my Bose 161 4-8ohm 10-100w speakers. and possibly my Audiosource Dual channel 10band EQ

In order of out-put I think would work well for my budget listening room:
Audio Technica LP120>AudioSource 10Band Eq>Yaqin 45wx2 Tube amp> 2x Bose 161 or Bose 2001

Thanks for any help and advise! please point me to any better products you think would work better for my Budget!

 

[slipperybidness]

Why tube amp?

Tube amps are technically inferior to solid state amps in pretty much every way. There is no doubt about it that SS is superior technology to tubes.

Now, for guitar players, they typically like tubes BECAUSE they are inferior to SS (distortion characteristics, "warm" sound, etc).

If you understand this, and are OK with it, then go ahead with tubes, but I wanted to be sure that you are basing your decisions on facts and not on some audiophile nonsense.

If I were you, I might see if this member would ship this upon purchase:
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/classifieds-sell-your-gear/90613-fs-nad-c372-integrated-amp.html

 

[nin8185]

yes I understand that SS is superior technology and does not cut out and distort like tubes when overdriven but would playing a turntable really overdrive the tubes into unwanted distortion when these amps are rated for home audio? The reason for wanting tubes in a Home system would be for the warmth that comes from tubes where SS is rather sterile. The Goal here is to get the most natural "live" sounding tones where If paired a Vinyl with Tubes i believe it would sound much more organic than a SS amp i assume. I have only listened to one home system with Tubes with a cd, and it was amazing! also every one around the system wondered why this old sound system sounded so good, I'm sure there were other facts at play as it was an expensive system but i'm sure the tubes played a big part in it...Also I will be running the Turntable through my Sony Home theater receiver till I can afford the rest for the proper amp I would want for my Vinyl. so I may be happy with my current system setup but tube warmth i think would be a plus.

Other Option would be to stick with the SS home theater systems I have now im thinking and use my budget to go for a better turntable and get superior sound that way. Which may be a more likely case with a little bit more research.

 

[TLS Guy]

yes I understand that SS is superior technology and does not cut out and distort like tubes when overdriven but would playing a turntable really overdrive the tubes into unwanted distortion when these amps are rated for home audio? The reason for wanting tubes in a Home system would be for the warmth that comes from tubes where SS is rather sterile. The Goal here is to get the most natural "live" sounding tones where If paired a Vinyl with Tubes i believe it would sound much more organic than a SS amp i assume. I have only listened to one home system with Tubes with a cd, and it was amazing! also every one around the system wondered why this old sound system sounded so good, I'm sure there were other facts at play as it was an expensive system but i'm sure the tubes played a big part in it...Also I will be running the Turntable through my Sony Home theater receiver till I can afford the rest for the proper amp I would want for my Vinyl. so I may be happy with my current system setup but tube warmth i think would be a plus.

You have sniffed at the audiophools opium den. Everything you have heard is bunk. It all comes down to speakers. Good speakers sound fine with whatever you drive them with. Put most of the budget into speakers. Some tube amps do roll off in the top end which is not a virtue. This can improve slightly aggressive speakers. However that is a very expensive high maintenance tone control.

I play lots of vinyl and do it though good solid state amps. As you have been told they are superior. Any defect is not an accomplishment and to be avoided. Vinyl sounds fine on both of my rigs that have turntables.