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French90

Audiophyte
Hello. I’m thinking about adding a power amp to my system. I have a Denon 3500h so it has pre outs. I have Klipsch RP-8000 towers (I have them set to full range) and the RP-504c center. I’ll be adding Klipsch WF-35 towers for my rear channels once my dad upgrades his system and gives me those. and I have a SVS PB-2000 for my sub

I have been looking at the outlaw 5000, 5x120 watts, not much more power then my Receiver, 105 watts x2 channel driven according to crutchfield. Or I was also considering saving a while longer and picking up the monolith 5x200, that would actually double the power to the speakers. I have a decent size room, 20 x 24 x 9 foot ceiling opens up to the kitchen and dining room and a hallway. I sit about 15 feet away from the tv. I like my music and movies pretty loud. It seems like the speakers are looking for more power. The two 8” Woofers in the towers ask a lot of the receiver and it gets hot quick. I have two 100mm usb fans on top to help with the heat.

I’m looking for some suggestions or recommendations from people with more experience with home theater equipment.
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
Denim and Marantz do have a tendency towards getting warm, regardless of activity... Fans and room for the receiver to breathe is all you need.
With sensitive speakers like those Klipsch, about 92dB iirc from Shady’s review... you probably aren’t using more than 16 watts per channel.
But, you say you like it loud... so what SPL do you listen at? If you are listening at rock concert levels... then get some 300w per channel amps and call it a day. ;)
Otherwise, that Denon should be able to handle those Klipsch speakers just fine.
(Don’t misunderstand, I have no problem with Amps... but i just don’t think you need it. To be sure, play with the SPL calculator, and see what that tells you.) :)
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
A lot of people don't need more than 50-70 W for the loud peaks, but you said you like it loud and sit 15 ft from TV, so you might need a lot more watts. Get the 200 W Monolith if you want to make a difference, and the 3500 to last..

Even with the amp, you will only gain 3 to 4 dB of headroom so don't crank it much higher than ref level.
 
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French90

Audiophyte
I usually have my volume set between 70-75 For movies and around 80 for music when the wife isn’t home so I like it loud.

will adding the amp help out with sound quality also? I’ve read and watched videos saying that it will help
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
A lot of people don't need more than 50-70 W for the loud peaks, but you said you like it loud and sit 15 ft from TV, so you might need a lot more watts. Get the 200 W Monolith if you want to make a difference, and the 3500 to last..

Even with the amp, you will only gain 3 to 4 dB of headroom so don't crank it much higher than ref level.
Sounds like a very similar space to mine. I'm super happy with my Monolith powering my speakers. Plenty of power on tap. I like it loud sometimes too.
 
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French90

Audiophyte
Sounds like a very similar space to mine. I'm super happy with my Monolith powering my speakers. Plenty of power on tap. I like it loud sometimes too.
Which monolith amp do you have and how long have you had it for?
 
CajunLB

CajunLB

Senior Audioholic
If you have a subwoofer you don’t need to run those Towers full range. During based management and 80 Hz will take a significant load off of that Denon. It also should clean up the sound taking the bass load off of your towers and giving it to the sub
 
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French90

Audiophyte
If you have a subwoofer you don’t need to run those Towers full range. During based management and 80 Hz will take a significant load off of that Denon. It also should clean up the sound taking the bass load off of your towers and giving it to the sub
I have them set to full range because the size of my room. Sounds a lot better with them set to full. I plan on adding a 2nd pb-2000 in the future
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
I have them set to full range because the size of my room. Sounds a lot better with them set to full. I plan on adding a 2nd pb-2000 in the future
I've found setting my towers to small and letting my receiver set the crossover give the best response for me. I've tried running my towers full but bass is uneven and gets muddy. Plus offloading some bass to my subs lets my towers play cleaner, clearer and louder now without distortion.
 
CajunLB

CajunLB

Senior Audioholic
I've found setting my towers to small and letting my receiver set the crossover give the best response for me. I've tried running my towers full but bass is uneven and gets muddy. Plus offloading some bass to my subs lets my towers play cleaner, clearer and louder now without distortion.
That been my experience to. That’s what the sub is for, it only has one job and it does it a lot better than the towers. That said though if it sounds better to you running them full range that’s all that matters.
 
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