A little DIY and B-amping today.

DonBattles

DonBattles

Audioholic
Did a little DIY today in the form of making up some speaker cables that allowed to to hook up my MA RS6's using my Onkyo's Bi-amp my front speakers. All in all it would call it a worth while project. I believe I am getting much more separation and dept with this get up. The highs, mids, and lows are very distinctive and sounded great while watching Iron Man.







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OttoMatic

OttoMatic

Senior Audioholic
The cables look great, but I hope you're ready for the bi-amping backlask!
 
Wannabubble

Wannabubble

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Cables look great man! I'm wanting to do the same thing. What size did you use for the Techflex and Heatshrink?
 
OttoMatic

OttoMatic

Senior Audioholic
and what would the "bi-amping backlash" be?
Usually everyone freaks out about how bi-amping doesn't make a difference, and it's a waste of money, cable, whatever. Especially since you claim to hear a difference -- normally there would be a bunch of naysayers to shout you down. I'm surprised they aren't saying anything. Note that I'm not trying to be one of them, and I don't care either way. Just sayin'. Search the forum and you'll see what I mean.
 
DonBattles

DonBattles

Audioholic
Usually everyone freaks out about how bi-amping doesn't make a difference, and it's a waste of money, cable, whatever. Especially since you claim to hear a difference -- normally there would be a bunch of naysayers to shout you down. I'm surprised they aren't saying anything. Note that I'm not trying to be one of them, and I don't care either way. Just sayin'. Search the forum and you'll see what I mean.
Well I wasn't 100% sure but I thought that's what you were referring to. I did a great deal of reading about bi-amping and did see lots of bad press if you will. Still I figured since it was a feature that was offered on my AVR I said what the hell I'll give it a try. I was going to build some "nice looking" cables anyway and I estimate the extra cost to be about 20% more for the bi-amp set up compared to std. speaker wiring. So for $20 more I was worth a try. As for what I hear I will be the first to say I realize that sometimes we hear what we want to hear and therefore my statements could be suspect. Anyway I'm happy either way and I think I have a cable that looks as good as anything I could purchase as a finished product. As for those that feel the need to "shout down" at others, say what you will I'm still a happy camper :D
 
Shock

Shock

Audioholic General
Usually everyone freaks out about how bi-amping doesn't make a difference, and it's a waste of money, cable, whatever. Especially since you claim to hear a difference -- normally there would be a bunch of naysayers to shout you down. I'm surprised they aren't saying anything. Note that I'm not trying to be one of them, and I don't care either way. Just sayin'. Search the forum and you'll see what I mean.

Bi-wiring does nothing, bi-amping is completely different.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
VERY nice job on the cables, however the 605 is definitely not a receiver I would be using to biamp anything.
 
DonBattles

DonBattles

Audioholic
VERY nice job on the cables, however the 605 is definitely not a receiver I would be using to biamp anything.
OK I'll bite. You have 10k plus posts so I'll defer to you for further clarification. Why not do this on the 605?
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I like the Onkyo receivers, but basically there are only a few receivers on the market (at the highest end at that) that I would say might be worth your time biamping. For biamping to ultimately work, you need to have sufficient additional power to do it; in other words - external amplification with its own dedicated power supply.

A receiver's power supply is powering everything in the receiver at the same time, so in essence the speaker won't get a significant benefit because each channel is still being powered by the same single power supply. Yes they are hopefully discrete channels, but those channels are still fighting for their share of the total power. The 60x Onkyos are good, but (no offense) they aren't stout enough IMHO to provide sufficient current to do true biamping. It is a marketing feature to me and little more.

I have tried biamping and biwiring like this and found little benefit.
 

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