A historical question: Apogee speakers

Rip Van Woofer

Rip Van Woofer

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<font color='#000000'>Just idle curiosity here about a bit of audio history. I have a friend (alas, a total tweako subjectivist - in spite of my attempts at enlightenment - sad...) who owns Apogee Stages acquired second-hand and raves about them. The rise and demise of Apogee occurred during my long audio slumber; I am only recently aware of them via his enthusiastic emails and occasionally lurking on the BBS devoted to them. Evidently they still have quite a cult following (link below). I haven't even heard his as he lives in another state.

So, those of you Who Were There: were they really all that, or just another ribbon planar with a following of Stereophile-addled cultists? The level of discourse on the Apogee BBS suggests the latter but there are some fairly sensible voices there too. I do know that some models were (and are) very difficult loads. The nominal impedance of one model, the Scintilla, was 1 ohm.

I am not contemplating an Apogee or any planar purchase, BTW. Dipoles do intrigue me though, partly as a result of a little exposure to planars (Maggies) and my friend's enthusiasm (hey, even a stopped clock...) and especially because of the writings of Siegfried Linkwitz.

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Graz of PERIGEE ACOUSTICS

RVW - My advice if your question is serious is to post on the apforum with your area details, requesting access to a local member or two's systems for a dem. Easy - then make up your own mind...

Take care - Graz
 
Rip Van Woofer

Rip Van Woofer

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I did get a few private responses from people here that satisfied my curiosity for the nonce, and in favor of the Aps reputation. It interested me mainly from the historical perspective. I was away from the hobby for many years and missed a lot. I know of only one person in my area that owns Aps but don't wish to impose. My current enthusiasm is for Siegfried Linkwitz's DIY cone dipole designs. I'm happily using his small two-way 'prototype' passive crossover PMT1 now. My listening room and financial means are both modest, especially in this economy; not up to the demands of Apogee (let alone Perigee) ownership!

As for my friend, we enjoy good-naturedly tweaking each other now and then about our differing audio philosophies. Name withheld to protect the innocent and all that. He lurks here now and then, too, and gives me the raised eyebrow over some of my more "emphatic" pronouncements. Turn about is fair play!

I would have emailed you privately but you likely have a pretty full inbox.

[EDIT] Ah, I see you've posted elsewhere here. As you have surmised by now this forum has a strong objectivist/scientific orientation. You won't make much headway arguing for things the audible impacts of expensive cables or break-in.

Regardless of our differing orientations, I sincerly wish you luck with the new Perigee ribbon speakers. Quite striking in appearance! Tough business, and a tough time to launch a new venture. Of course, objectivist that I am my first thought was, "OK, but how will they measure?" ;)
 
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miroslav

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This evening I have connected my Apogee speakers to Yamaha 1300 w. amp....Unbelievable sound...talking about being spoiled ...I will never go back to regular speakers...this is something else...working tomorrow so must go to sleep...but ohhh..boy....
if you love music this is must have speakers
Miroslav
 

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TLS Guy

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The biggest problem with the Apogee is the below 2 ohm impedance. So they blow a lot of amps. You require an amp with high current delivery stable down to 1 ohm essentially. Even then amps have excess failure rate driving these speakers. This is by far their biggest issue.

The other issue is power handling in the bass. Like all foil ribbons, the foil is easily stretched which, in the case of these full range ribbons happens if your drive them hard with a lot of bass content.

Driven properly they sound very much like electrostatic loudspeakers, but beam a little less due to the tweeter ribbon being a line source.

It is the practicality issue, that limited their commercial success.
 

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