7000 cubic feet...Am I screwed?

[LGM]

I can not be the only one that has decided to create a home theatre in an open concept basement. The theatre will be in one corner. The whole room has the dimensions of 26' x 35' x 8'. I understand speakers play to the immediate area and a sub will play to an entire room. Can someone tell me what subwoofer to get to accommodate this space. is a .2 system the only answer? I was hoping to pull this off with only one subwoofer.

Also im in canada. its not a good place to get subs...no hsu or svs without hundreds in shipping fees

What can I do without breaking the bank?!?!?!
How much sub do I really need?!?!?

Thank you for your help

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Banks comes and different sizes and as for our dear northern brethren, Funk is Canadian, but likely to fall under breaking bank category.
One 18 vented sub with decent amp should fill your room nicely.

What's your budget?

 

[LGM]

there was a time when I thought 500$ for a sub was ok for a starter system...I want to do this for under 1000$...is that possible?

 

[LGM]

I was thinking of getting two subs around 300$ each...both 12"?

 

[ARES24]

Are you willing/able to put some work into it?

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

^^^ What Ares said - DIY is your best option
these guys are Canadian - give them a buzz:
http://www.creativesound.ca/contact.html

 

[witchdoctor]

FYI
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649185190-svs-pc12-plus-clone-subwoofer/

It seems big enough but you would need to add an amp. Dayton has a great subwoofer amp for about another $200.

 

[witchdoctor]

This JBL would probably do the trick too:
http://www.avshop.ca/sound-amp-pa-audio/speakers/non-powered-subwoofers/jbl-jrx218s-18inch-compact-subwoofer

You might need an adapter to connect it because it is from the Pro side of JBL but 133 DB peak with an 18 inch driver is probably going to fill 7000 feet.
http://www.uniquesquared.com/jbl-jrx218s-18-compact-passive-subwoofer.html

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

FYI
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649185190-svs-pc12-plus-clone-subwoofer/

It seems big enough but you would need to add an amp. Dayton has a great subwoofer amp for about another $200.

Actually nice find, but I doubt this one would be sufficient to pressurize 7000 cu ft.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

This JBL would probably do the trick too:
http://www.avshop.ca/sound-amp-pa-audio/speakers/non-powered-subwoofers/jbl-jrx218s-18inch-compact-subwoofer

You're started so well , but quickly wandered off into dark side of suggesting completely wrong things.
JBL Pro sub for Concert venues, not HT. aka It's very powerful in mid/hi bass, but absolutely useless for bass extension -

• Frequency Range (-10 dB) : 34 Hz - 250 Hz

-10db at 34 - could mean anything, for example 50hz at -3db - in other words for HT use it's considered a mid-bass speaker.

 

[witchdoctor]

Like he said, Canada is not a good place to get subs. Maybe get two of the first one.

 

[rojo]

^^^ What Ares said - DIY is your best option
these guys are Canadian - give them a buzz:
http://www.creativesound.ca/contact.html

What BSA said. I'm happy as a pig in poop with my SDX12. Granted, my room is about 1/3 the size of O.P.'s and I have two subs, but the SDX12 has low tuning and high excursion, capable of playing low with authority.

If you're not into diy, you should contact Powersound Audio and see if they can cut you a break on a b-stock XS30SE. http://www.powersoundaudio.com/collections/outlet-center/products/xs30se-b

Sent from my LG-VS980 using Forum Fiend v1.3.1.

 

[walter duque]

I was thinking of getting two subs around 300$ each...both 12"?

That is some huge room. To fill that space you need at least 4 good subs, maybe even 6. My room is 1200 cubic feet and I am running 2 decent subs for the front and have 2 more coming for the rear. Your room is more than 5 times bigger than mine. I would start with 1 good sub first and add more subs as budged allows. IMO 1 good sub is better than 2 cheap subs. Good systems take a long time to complete. I've been working on mine for many years (and I am not done). Most of us buy one good piece of gear at a time.

 

[mtrycrafts]

That is some huge room. To fill that space you need at least 4 good subs, maybe even 6. My room is 1200 cubic feet and I am running 2 decent subs for the front and have 2 more coming for the rear. Your room is more than 5 times bigger than mine. I would start with 1 good sub first and add more subs as budged allows. IMO 1 good sub is better than 2 cheap subs. Good systems take a long time to complete. I've been working on mine for many years (and I am not done). Most of us buy one good piece of gear at a time.

Oh, yes, but you like your chest crushed.

 

[LGM]

Thanks for the replies. I really want a DIY sub to be my last option.

What am I losing if I don't get enough "sub" for the room. Can I get away with one good sub like it was mentioned above? Or is it pointless?

In my OP I was hoping someone could relate to the space I have. Most modern homes have open concepts...I hope I'm calculating this right for cubic feet(length x width x height). I'm not a millionaire. My house is by no means a mansion, it's just open concept. 26 x 35 x 8...there are columns running down the centre of the room, but it is definitely open space.

Maybe I should approach this differently. How small sub wise can I go to have a respectable set up?

Thanks for your help guys

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Corner loaded that tc driver sonatube should be more than ok. The catch is you must ensure that the driver is not damaged in any way. Don't buy used speakers without listening first. Without properly sized sub(s) you will not get chest thumping effects from sub.

 

[afterlife2]

Do you have family/friends in NYC that can recieve this sub for you? If yes this would be perfect for you in that space: http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/collections/subwoofers/products/gamma-18?variant=1107645869

Edit wait they ship to CANADA! Give em a call. Maybe they can give you a discount. Hey ya never know.

 

[herbu]

I would start with 1 good sub first and add more subs as budged allows.

Excellent advice! You cannot get a sub or subs that will satisfy you forever in that room for $1k. If you try w/ multiple cheap subs, you will end up replacing them all, thus $$$ down the drain. Get the best single sub you can afford now. Add to it later, keeping the one you get now. No wasted $$$.

 

[KEW]

Thanks for the replies. I really want a DIY sub to be my last option.

What am I losing if I don't get enough "sub" for the room. Can I get away with one good sub like it was mentioned above? Or is it pointless?

In my OP I was hoping someone could relate to the space I have. Most modern homes have open concepts...I hope I'm calculating this right for cubic feet(length x width x height). I'm not a millionaire. My house is by no means a mansion, it's just open concept. 26 x 35 x 8...there are columns running down the centre of the room, but it is definitely open space.

Maybe I should approach this differently. How small sub wise can I go to have a respectable set up?

Thanks for your help guys

I have a pair of Rythmik E15HPs in a much larger space (ceiling goes to upstairs hallway/balcony, 2 level open foyer, etc) and they give me all I could ask for.
One would be fine for music (classic rock, jazz, classical), but not quite as thrilling for HT.
The wild card is some people really like to live in the bass while others like to listen to it.
I play in a Big Band (aka Swing Band) so I know what live bass, bari sax, bass trombone, and drums sound like. That is the experience I want from my sub for listening to music.

 

[jcparks]

7000 feet really is big, but it doesn't have to be too big... Just approach it with realistic expectations.
I have my home theater in a 2700cuft living room that has a 6 ft wide doorway which leads into a 1000cuft dinging room on one side and a 400cuft foyer on the other side. All total its just over 4000cuft.
At the moment I have 1 sealed 12" SVS SB2000 corner loaded and I am very satisfied. I am going to add a second sub in the future just to even out the response, however the bass levels from the 1 sub are more then enough for me.
If you want a theater that plays comfortably at reference levels with earthquake levels of bass, you're going to have to buy atleast 4 subwoofers. However if you are realistic about your expectations you can start with one sub, then purchase more later as your budget allows. Speakers aren't like PC parts... a lot of manufactures will keep the same product lines for years as opposed to months, so you have time.
If you do it right your home theater can last you years, so approach it the same way you would home renovations. Be patient take your time and build something that is going to be acoustically and aesthetically pleasing to you. If you try to do it all at once, it will just be something that you are going to try to upgrade again in a year and will end up costing you more.