7.2 YamahaRX-V665/6.1 speakers hooking up???

[rivrbyte]

Hello...
You've no doubt heard this expression, "How long do you want to keep beating a dead dog?"

Believe me, this dawg loves my Golden retriever to death, and I would never harm him in any way, but guys, seriously? I am so sorry for being completely dense on this, but over the last six months, I have received tons of misinformation on how to hook up the Display to AVR, primarily from audio salesmen, and other Forums, I'm just plain dizzy. I don't want to make any mistakes. At first, I wanted to have a choice on listening to either the TV speakers, or the AVR speakers, but what was I thinking...I should just use the AVR and 3.1 for broadcast and the 6.1 for movies. Otherwise, I would have to either run separate HDMI cables from TV (in wall) to each component and optical from TW-DVR to AVR…right?

I've waited awhile for the right receiver, and here are a few features: that
Fully compatible with HD audio and video,
HD audio decoding, HDMI (4 in/ 1 out),
1080p video upscaling. Pure Direct,
YPAO, Cinema DSP 3D and custom installation features,
HDMI Pass-through,
HDMI Up Conversion (with upscaling up to 1080p).

Originally, I was going to get the Onkyo 606 or 706, or maybe even a Sony HTiab (gasp) but decided on this Yamaha 7.2 RX-V665 AVR, and a HSU Sound research 6.1 speaker.

I have a HDTV Display mounted on the wall with one HDMI cable presently connected to my Time-Warner-DVR STB, soon to be connected to the Yamaha RX-v665,along with a 6.1 speaker setup.

It's not hooked up yet, because I'm going round and round trying to figure out the best way to do this with less cabling in the walls. Besides, I would have to take the TV back down to connect any additional cables in it and that would be a BIG hassle.
Now, with this receiver, I'm thinking all I have to do is keep the one HDMI from Display to the AVR, and then all the other components into the AVR. In doing this, will I still get 6.1 from the display via the receiver?

I was told this…

"Put simply, if you run an HDMI from your display to the receiver you will only get 2.1 audio (some sort of restriction due to copyright laws) IS THIS TRUE?
"You must pass all audio through the receiver first in order to get all the audio formats in proper 7.1."

"If you want to sometimes just have the display on without the receiver you can run a separate optical cable for audio and a component video feed directly to the display from the cable box/sat receiver." I’d rather not.
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I kind of wanted to have a choice on either listening to the TV speakers for just watching regular broadcast, or the AVR, but this seems like a lot more of a hassle to do this.

HERE IS THE YAMAHA RX-V665 RECEIVER –
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=5028057&CTID=5000300&RLTID=1504&DETYP=RELATION

In looking at the specs, would I just be able to hook it up with my original idea...one HDMI from Display to the AVR, and everything else into the AVR? -

What else do I need to do to get all the Audio/Video features from the AVR and the Display to play through all the 6.1 speakers? Anything at all, or am I good to go? Currently, I think there a few 5.1 Dolby programming channels on TV, and the 6th rear-center speaker matrixes along with the rear-right and rear left speaker.
Thanks a bunch! And Don't HATE me because I'm electronically challenged.

 

[Adam]

Hi. I think that you are good to go with that one HDMI cable.

Just to make sure that something is clear upfront - the HDMI cable running from your receiver's HDMI output to your TV's HDMI input only carries audio and video from the receiver to the TV. You can't send audio from the TV to the receiver using that cable. So, if you use the TV for over-the-air reception, you would need to run an audio cable from the TV (output) to the receiver (input) to listen to that through your receiver and speakers.

If you aren't wanting to run audio from the TV to the receiver, then I think that you are set for HDMI sources. Your receiver will let you either (a) pass HDMI audio and video through to the TV when the receiver is in standby mode or powered on, (b) pass HDMI video to the TV but play the audio through the receiver, or (c) pass HDMI audio and video through to the TV while also playing audio through the receiver. That should let you do what you want.

If you use another type of audio/video input on the receiver other than HDMI (for example, connecting a Wii with component video and left/right analog inputs), and you want to listen to that source on the TV, then I think that you need to run a set of analog audio cables from the receiver (output) to the TV (input). I don't think that the 665 will convert analog audio and output it through the HDMI output. I'm not positive of that, though, so double check if that's important to you.

 

[rivrbyte]

Thanks Adam,
I know, it's "beating a dead horse", not Dog. Sorry about that Mr. Warlord. I do love my Golden Retriever!

With this unusual, nontraditional speaker config.www.hsuresearch.com VT-12 (6.1)Performance 2 Ventriloquist set-up has speaker wires out from the two L/R fronts, and in from the receiver to the center back connectors are the two fronts,and the center.

So it would be impossible to hide any wires in the wall.
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I received this yesterday...

I asked, "Any issues connecting this Yamaha RX-V665 to a 6.1 speaker setup by only running one HDMI from the Display to the receiver???"

answer-
There shouldn't be any problem with this.
No need to complicate matters. Because you have the latest in receiver technology, Yamaha RX-V665, you need not run any more cables to the back of the TV other than the HDMI that's already there in the wall. The Yamaha, when properly set up will pass audio to the TV via its HDMI output, and still utilize any audio bitsteam for the surround system. (See page 54 where you choose "AMP+TV" for the HDMI audio configuration.) In order to use the TV speakers only, you will have to power up the Yamaha (otherwise the HDMI output would be dead), but at that point you would mute the receiver and turn up the TV's speakers.

I asked, "Now, with this receiver, I'm thinking all I have to do is keep the one HDMI from Display to the AVR, and then all the other components into the AVR. In doing this, will I still get 6.1 from the display via the receiver?"

answer - You're not getting anything from the display; you're only sending video and stereo audio to the display. Otherwise, the answer to your question is yes!

I was told this…
"Put simply, if you run an HDMI from your display to the receiver you will only get 2.1 audio (some sort of restriction due to copyright laws) IS THIS TRUE?

answer -
Horsepucky. First of all, the wording implies that there's an HDMI output on the TV, which there most certainly is not. Yes the TV and all the other HDMI devices in your system must be HDCP (High Definition Copy Protection) compliant, which they are. But it isn't the TV that deals with the surround sound.

"You must pass all audio through the receiver first in order to get all the audio formats in proper 7.1."

answer -True.

"If you want to sometimes just have the display on without the receiver you can run a separate optical cable for audio and a component video feed directly to the display from the cable box/sat receiver."

asked - "In looking at the specs, would I just be able to hook it up with my original idea...one HDMI from Display to the AVR, and everything else into the AVR?"

answer -Yes.

"Currently, I think there a few 5.1 Dolby programming channels on TV, and the 6th rear-center speaker matrixes along with the rear-right and rear left speaker."

answer - The HDMI from the cable box will be hooked into the Yamaha and once that particular input is selected, the Yamaha will process any and all digital surround signals available on the cable channels.

"Variety is the spice of life."

 

[rivrbyte]

All "Hooked Up"..playin; with theYamaha 665

Okie-Dokie, all up and running...

Thank you for all who contributed to my questions on setting up my HT system. I ended up running 16 gauge to the fronts and center, and 14 gauge to the rear and surround back (center-rear channel) and so far, it sounds good.
All I have to do is to read more on my RX-V665 Yamaha receiver as far as the surround modes go. Basically, I'm guessing I won't get all the good stuff as far as effect features from this AVR until I watch a BD movie?

On watching regular TV broadcasts, I am using the DOLBY DIGITAL setting. From there I can use the 7 channel,or 2 channel Stereo setting, or the Straight Enhancer. There are other buttons on the remote like the PURE DIRECT,which when I press the SURROUND DECODER, it displays"NOT AVAILABLE".

In order to use the other features on this AVR, I'm guessing I can get more effects out of this AVR by watching a 5.1 broadcast,or a Bluray, then and only then, will I see features like the Dolby TrueHD,DTS-HD Master Audio,Kick in. I have not checked out the Neural surround with the music feature.

Not a big deal, but is this normal? When I turn UP the volume on the remote,the sound level on the AVR displays that it going minus(-) down,not up. ie: -20.00db,instead of +20.00db


This receiver is running hotter than I thought, it is in it's own cabinet shelf, with the window open all the time. I will consider buying an "Antec Low Profile AV Component Cooler" for on top of the receiver to help cool it...if they really work.

PS. My speakers are from HSU Research Sound in Orange County, Ca. They are amazing!
Thanks again for all who chimed in to help me.

 

[AVRat]

On watching regular TV broadcasts, I am using the DOLBY DIGITAL setting. From there I can use the 7 channel,or 2 channel Stereo setting, or the Straight Enhancer. There are other buttons on the remote like the PURE DIRECT,which when I press the SURROUND DECODER, it displays"NOT AVAILABLE".

In order to use the other features on this AVR, I'm guessing I can get more effects out of this AVR by watching a 5.1 broadcast,or a Bluray, then and only then, will I see features like the Dolby TrueHD,DTS-HD Master Audio,Kick in. I have not checked out the Neural surround with the music feature.

SD DVD with DD & DTS soundtracks also provide excellent surround effects.

Not a big deal, but is this normal? When I turn UP the volume on the remote,the sound level on the AVR displays that it going minus(-) down,not up. ie: -20.00db,instead of +20.00db

Yes it's normal. As you move right on the number line, values increase.

Lower -30 -------- -5 -------0 ----------+10---------+20 Higher

Reading through the manual and playing around is the best way to familiarize youself with the system.