6.1ch using either 14ga, or 16ga??

[rivrbyte]

Hiyas,
I have purchased the new Yamaha RX-V665 7.2 AVR . 90wx7 / 630w AVR. This will be a 6.1 channel set up.

So 14 awg is the way to go go GO?
HSU sound told me usually it's 16ga for under 25' run, and 14ga,for 25' and over, but just told me to run it all with the 14ga,if the extra price is not much.

Thank you,
This is not rocket science, I don’t want to blow the speaker drivers by using the wrong gauge wire, I wish then NOT to look so obtrusive going up the corners or along the baseboards, So i will not be using 8,10,or12 awg wire.

I think I'm going with the Monoprice Enhanced Loud Oxygen-free copper 14 awg.For the 150' linear total footage, it's $10.76 more for the 14ga, (BEST) than the 16ga (better) for a 100',and 50' spool.



On the other hand, these small speakers are NOT JBL, Mirage, or Definitive, floor-standers, or even bookshelves, they are satellites... they are rated as follows: 80hz-20khz / 90db Sensitivity,1 watt,1 meter / 8ohm /10-125 watt recommended amp power / less than 2 lb speakers.

Here are the actual run lengths. I have to go along the baseboards, up the corners, and around two doorjambs to get to a few speakers.

Front left= 14' / front right=18' / rear surround left=26' / rear-center=31' / and the rear surround right=41'

The only thing I found to anchor this wire around door jambs and baseboards are 1/4" cable clips.

 

[Adam]

Hi. I suggest that you check out the link here for some great info and recommendations on speaker wire gauges. It's my favorite site for that info.

 

[Mike19]

Hi rivrbyte.

14 gauge Monoprice will be fine.

Mike

 

[rivrbyte]

Balance of resistance?

Mike and Adam,

Someone said this....

I'd make sure the runs for the rear surrounds and back surround are the same length, and that the fronts are the same length.

And someone said this....

The rear and back surrounds don't need to have the same length wire as speaker delay and distance is set up in the receiver, however, naturally each speaker pair should have the same length wire. 16 or 18 gauge would suffice for those runs imo

Also, make the lengths to the similar speakers the same, even if the length is not needed - for example cut the speaker wire 32' for the 3 rear speakers and 10' for the 3 front speakers. This balances the resistance.

So, you see my confusion here...is this basically a BALANCE OF RESISTANCE ISSUE HERE?

Who's right? What would happen if i cut to length each speaker run from the AVR to each speaker? This is a 6.1 set up. Two fronts,two rears,one center-rear,one center,and one sub. 12x12 room=thatsa lotsa wire!!!!

 

[bandphan]

Either will work fine and newer avrs will adjust the differnce.

 

[markw]

First off, if you want advice, fine. Feel free to ask. But, it you want to play the "but someone else said" game and play us against some unknown "they", you should get some knowledge yourself. Here's a good place to start : http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

As for that resistance stuff, please have "them" provide some actual numbers to discuss. It's my take that for the lengths and gauges mentioned here, the differences i resistance are insignificant, at least in the scientific usage of that word.

FWIW, you've gotten some good, no BS advice here, and from Hsu Labs. But, maybe your unknown friends know better.

P.S. I see Adam already posted this link. You should have read it.

 

[rivrbyte]

unconventional speaker hookup...

Hi,
I just purchased the HSUSound (6.1) VT-12 Ventriloquist speaker system which uses an unconventional hookup method. I have not hooked it up yet, just awaiting my mounts and wire from monoprice. I also bought the new Yamaha RX-V665 AVR.

Their setup:
Two sets of speaker wire is run from the front (left/right) satellite speakers to the front center channel, and then three sets of wire is run from the front center channel to the receiver.

This allows one to make use of the "Ventriloquist" effect, where the front center contributes to upper bass/lower mid-range frequencies for the left/right mains.

Of course, A ton of talk on these boards as to keeping the two front right/left wire runs the same,even though the right side will need another 4'-6' go around the door jamb and up the ceiling, to the corner.

I will have three rear surrounds...rear right-41' run, rear center, 31' run, and the rear left,41' run length. Some say to keep all the same length,and others say just the two fronts,because the surrounds are just for effect, and I will not notice much in difference. I'm going 16awg for the fronts and 14awg for the surrounds, and they will be at different length runs for the surrounds.

Thanks to all who chimed in! Take care, and a Happy Weekend to all!