6.1 Hookup?

[thegreenline]

We just finished up a family/HT room remodel, my question is how do I hook up my Denon 5802 6.1 receiver?

I am using two speakers on the back wall ( as well as the the normal surrounds on the side). Should I hook them up in series (and how is that done) or in parrallel?

I understand in series I will lose half the power, does this matter (90 watt per channel rcvr)? And in parrallel I would be cutting the impedance in half, could this harm my rcvr?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[shamus]

so basically ...you have a 6.1 receiver and want to hook up 7.1 speakers(2 speakers hooked into the rear center speaker)????

 

[mulester7]

We just finished up a family/HT room remodel, my question is how do I hook up my Denon 5802 6.1 receiver?

I am using two speakers on the back wall ( as well as the the normal surrounds on the side). Should I hook them up in series (and how is that done) or in parrallel?

I understand in series I will lose half the power, does this matter (90 watt per channel rcvr)? And in parrallel I would be cutting the impedance in half, could this harm my rcvr?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

.....TheGreenLine, you won't lose half the power wiring in series....the speakers become more efficient and require less power....wire two rears in series off channel six....first, you'll go to the + of the first speaker from the + post of the receiver with a single speaker wire....then you'll go from the - of the first speaker to the + of the second speaker with a single wire, and finally from the - of the second speaker to the - speaker post of channel six at the receiver with a single wire....you may have to jack the volume of channel six to achieve balance....let us know what you try and what works for youse.......

 

[mulester7]

.....two speakers wired in series emit more presence, as they have become twice-efficient....cross-wiring at one end gives the same result to a single speaker....you 7.1 guys cross-wire your rears and see what you think....bear in mind you've got your subs to keep you warm....go for life, presence, transparency, and above all, "clean"......

.....there could be no doubt the Earthquake three-channel amp would be good....signal noise of 112, 111, and 111 at three different measurings.....seperation of 95 db....tuff....somebody get that TDeluce to post where he got it for around $1300....Gentlemen, you'd be through with amping for the front three for life....the Crown K2 is awfully good also....the K-Series have a crossover-cut at the top and bottom....the amp is STRONG right up to the limits at both ends....and with my speakers and subs, delivers pristinely clear "everything".....

 

[mulester7]

.....well, I guess I'd say the Crown K2 has worked out mighty well for a PA amp, haha....that notion is just like a system for HT, and a system for music....cannon fodder....they're the same system with realism concussion to be had......

 

[MDS]

Speakers wired in series do not get twice as efficient; thegreenline had it right in his first post. The impedance will be raised, thus drawing less current and reducing the power. You can compensate for that when you recalibrate the levels.

 

[mulester7]

Speakers wired in series do not get twice as efficient; thegreenline had it right in his first post. The impedance will be raised, thus drawing less current and reducing the power. You can compensate for that when you recalibrate the levels.

....MDS, two 8 ohm speakers wired in series, render one circuit of 16 ohm resistance....the two speakers now require less power, and ARE, 16 ohm elements....they wouldn't now be more efficient?.....

 

[mulester7]

.....any full-range speaker that sounds muddy to you, needs to be heard cross-wired, especially if a sub is incorporated in the system.....the treble will either need to be cut at about 12k, or treble adjustment made down, uncut....now that's the best I got for you Neanderthals this day, and take that tone off them homely faces....Neanderthal is, as Neanderthal does.....(just made that up).....

 

[Sheep]

ORRRRRRRrrrrrrrr


You just have 1 rear speaker, and not do a bunch of wiring that may confusing the heck out of you. I just setup my 6th speaker for 6.1 and its good. Try it first, don't go for hokey 7.1 yet.

SheepStar

 

[mulester7]

ORRRRRRRrrrrrrrr


You just have 1 rear speaker, and not do a bunch of wiring that may confusing the heck out of you. I just setup my 6th speaker for 6.1 and its good. Try it first, don't go for hokey 7.1 yet.

SheepStar

.....very good point, Sheep....you only need one really, in the middle of your back, moving the soundstage closer....but sheep, two in series, will emit a more descriptive presence, and not labor the amp.....if someone has sufficient speakers to try this who has 6.1, they might love it....to set levels....with a setting on the receiver of all channels stereo, make the front mains more descriptive from the fading-in of the two rears wired in series to taste....surrounds and center as normal with the soundstage in front of you the loudest localization, but only by a hair......

 

[AVRat]

If you must, in series is preferred per Mule's instructions. Did you mean 2802?

 

[shamus]

thanks mulester...... i noticed a difference immediately from just wiring the 2 speakers together.........i also believe having 2 speakers in the rear is far better than just 1!!! instead of the sound coming from a speaker behind you, it comes from behind you!!! now if i can just get my side surrounds to sound that dispersed......... has anyone tried 2 side surrounds in series?????? im sure u would need an extra amp, but i wonder how that would sound?????

 

[MDS]

....MDS, two 8 ohm speakers wired in series, render one circuit of 16 ohm resistance....the two speakers now require less power, and ARE, 16 ohm elements....they wouldn't now be more efficient?.....

No mulester, they are not more efficient. They don't require less power, they use less power and the volume drops.

 

[Sheep]

thanks mulester...... i noticed a difference immediately from just wiring the 2 speakers together.........i also believe having 2 speakers in the rear is far better than just 1!!! instead of the sound coming from a speaker behind you, it comes from behind you!!! now if i can just get my side surrounds to sound that dispersed......... has anyone tried 2 side surrounds in series?????? im sure u would need an extra amp, but i wonder how that would sound?????

You would be better off geting a 7.1 amp/receiver instead of doubling up the side surrounds. 4 surround speakers is plenty if properly set up.

SheepStar

 

[shamus]

im just saying the front 3 speakers provide a nice dispersed sound...i can never tell a certain sound is coming out of one speaker...just that side of the room... the rears also.. sound is coming somewhere behind me...not from a speaker. with the side surrounds i occasionaly hear sound coming from that speaker ( ihave dipole/bipole/monopole surrounds...tried em all, dipole seems the smoothest). but you may be correct because my sides are a lot closer to my seating position then the other speakers...about 6 feet away. unfortunately, thats the best i can do...

 

[annunaki]

No mulester, they are not more efficient. They don't require less power, they use less power and the volume drops.

MDS is correct. A speaker cannot become more efficent of more sensitive by wiring it in series with another speaker (the overall system efficency can improve because of a surface area gain, but that is another story). Nor can it do either any better by wiring it out of phase.

 

[jcPanny]

Side Surround speakers

thanks mulester...... i noticed a difference immediately from just wiring the 2 speakers together.........i also believe having 2 speakers in the rear is far better than just 1!!! instead of the sound coming from a speaker behind you, it comes from behind you!!! now if i can just get my side surrounds to sound that dispersed......... has anyone tried 2 side surrounds in series?????? im sure u would need an extra amp, but i wonder how that would sound?????

Don't connect more speakers to the surround channel, just get the correct type. Dipole and Bipole type surround speakers contain multiple drivers firing and different directions to achieve the dispersed surround sound field that you are looking for. If possible, get some bipole surrounds speakers that tonally match your front and center channels for the best effect.